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I wonder how many of these are false flag operations. Pushing for AI regulation, after the market has been captured by the 2 top dogs.

EGreg 7d ago
Hmm, that's literally what this is asserting: https://x.com/ParkerThayer/status/2097759699626328575 https://x.com/ParkerThayer/status/2097759699626328575 but then how would you explain this, are they all "in on it"? https://x.com/TaylorPopielarz/status/2097710620187455954 https://x.com/TaylorPopielarz/status/2097710620187455954
blablabla123 8d ago
> I wonder how many of these are false flag operations. If I may ask, could you elaborate on what you mean?
- sscaryterry 8d ago
  See the second sentence.
  - no-name-here 8d ago
    The idea being that the employee(s) quit in order to run the false flag? Are their other historical examples of employees quitting to run false flags?
    - sscaryterry 7d ago
      I questioned how many of these articles around the HuggingFace incident are false flag operations. This specific scenario, I can think of a few ways to accomplish this: - the person isn't a real person. - the person is using a different, fake name. - the employee is paid to quit, change their name, rejoin later on. details sealed in an agreement. - add other options.
      - no-name-here 7d ago
        Is there any evidence to indicate that is true? Or does the evidence we have indicate the opposite? For example - "the person isn't a real person" - is the argument that Jacob Coxon is a made-up person? Or which of these incidents do you believe this occurred with? Or would you say the evidence shows the opposite of what you claimed?
        sscaryterry 6d ago
        You asked 5 questions in return. After I gave the op just a few plausible ways. Absence of evidence does not make something implausible.
- wjnc 8d ago
  Capture a market. Become big enough to jump hurdles XYZ due to scale and amount of, say, lawyers and compliance officers you can field. Then push for more compliance. It’s effectively a moat and one of the most durable kind since lawmakers aren’t very agile. It also opens a second front (first front being: product) to go up against newcomers. Kindly point out to the regulatory agencies that they are not compliant and demand enforcement due to “equal playing field”. To make this point concrete: KYC in banks in Europe is on a scale of 1000s FTE per bank. No newcomer can ever comply with KYC the way big banks have implemented this by pure meat. Trouble ensue for all newcomer. That’s a moat!
no-name-here 8d ago
I.e. employees are choosing to quit their jobs to run a false flag operation?
Centigonal 7d ago
Who else is going to compete? Everyone in this space already has gonzo capital, massive data centers, $1M salaries, etc.

EGreg 7d ago

Hmm, that's literally what this is asserting: https://x.com/ParkerThayer/status/2097759699626328575 https://x.com/ParkerThayer/status/2097759699626328575 but then how would you explain this, are they all "in on it"? https://x.com/TaylorPopielarz/status/2097710620187455954 https://x.com/TaylorPopielarz/status/2097710620187455954

blablabla123 8d ago

> I wonder how many of these are false flag operations. If I may ask, could you elaborate on what you mean?

sscaryterry 8d ago
See the second sentence.
- no-name-here 8d ago
  The idea being that the employee(s) quit in order to run the false flag? Are their other historical examples of employees quitting to run false flags?
  - sscaryterry 7d ago
    I questioned how many of these articles around the HuggingFace incident are false flag operations. This specific scenario, I can think of a few ways to accomplish this: - the person isn't a real person. - the person is using a different, fake name. - the employee is paid to quit, change their name, rejoin later on. details sealed in an agreement. - add other options.
    - no-name-here 7d ago
      Is there any evidence to indicate that is true? Or does the evidence we have indicate the opposite? For example - "the person isn't a real person" - is the argument that Jacob Coxon is a made-up person? Or which of these incidents do you believe this occurred with? Or would you say the evidence shows the opposite of what you claimed?
      - sscaryterry 6d ago
        You asked 5 questions in return. After I gave the op just a few plausible ways. Absence of evidence does not make something implausible.
wjnc 8d ago
Capture a market. Become big enough to jump hurdles XYZ due to scale and amount of, say, lawyers and compliance officers you can field. Then push for more compliance. It’s effectively a moat and one of the most durable kind since lawmakers aren’t very agile. It also opens a second front (first front being: product) to go up against newcomers. Kindly point out to the regulatory agencies that they are not compliant and demand enforcement due to “equal playing field”. To make this point concrete: KYC in banks in Europe is on a scale of 1000s FTE per bank. No newcomer can ever comply with KYC the way big banks have implemented this by pure meat. Trouble ensue for all newcomer. That’s a moat!

no-name-here 8d ago

I.e. employees are choosing to quit their jobs to run a false flag operation?

Centigonal 7d ago

Who else is going to compete? Everyone in this space already has gonzo capital, massive data centers, $1M salaries, etc.