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> The question is less about whether astra is AGI Actually the question is exactly that, since it's in the marketing copy. Sure there are other questions to be

> The question is less about whether astra is AGI Actually the question is exactly that, since it's in the marketing copy. Sure there are other questions to be asked but they are not what I was talking about. Nice Motte and Bailey though.

freehorse 8d ago
But whether astra itself is agi or not does not change anything in this argument or discussion of whether openai is good steward or not. The issue with agents running amok was not as much the direct consequences of them to huggingface etc (it is also to some degree, but the long term risks are more consequential), but the fact that there is no actual safeguards around AI agents, which in the future could lead to very bad scenarios. You do not need to believe that astra is agi (i dont, openai wants us to believe so) to be concerned. No motte/bailey here, as I am not defending whatever openai is saying anyway. If you want to discuss with openai instead then send them an email or sth, in public fora you discuss with people and the views they have.