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> all workers around the world want the exact same thing, a livable planet for their children Actually, they don't. First of all they want livable conditions f

by nickpp 9d ago

> all workers around the world want the exact same thing, a livable planet for their children Actually, they don't. First of all they want livable conditions for themselves. Ecologism is a hobby for people with full bellies. I remember during communism which failed to even feed and clothe us - but The Party kept telling us that we were actually winning and we were so morally superior to those "corrupt capitalists". This is what happens when ideological justifications replace rational thought.

ezst 8d ago
> Ecologism is a hobby for people with full bellies. Then it's a good thing that Chinese bellies are satisfied, we can get to those existential problems, now.
oblio 8d ago
> Ecologism is a hobby for people with full bellies. Almost the entire planet where this debate is raging, is the part of the planet where people have full bellies. On average, too full, even. Ecologism is also a hobby for people that don't want their kids to starve, as people living in Mesopotamia around the time of Akkad, or people around the Sea of Aral starting in the 1980s have discovered.
- nickpp 8d ago
  > Almost the entire planet where this debate is raging, is the part of the planet where people have full bellies. Exactly. And most of the pollution happens in the other part. We’re crippling our economies and render our companies uncompetitive to merely export environmental effects around, while pushing our voter base to the extremes. All for naught too, because when the orc armies come (attracted by our weakness to even defend ourselves) they will do the the environment what they did in Ukraine…
  - oblio 8d ago
    > And most of the pollution happens in the other part. Where does it happen exactly? > All for naught too, because when the orc armies come (attracted by our weakness to even defend ourselves) they will do the the environment what they did in Ukraine… Who are the orcs here? Russia? Europe is rearming like it's the 1980s.

by nickpp 9d ago

ezst 8d ago

> Ecologism is a hobby for people with full bellies. Then it's a good thing that Chinese bellies are satisfied, we can get to those existential problems, now.

oblio 8d ago

> Ecologism is a hobby for people with full bellies. Almost the entire planet where this debate is raging, is the part of the planet where people have full bellies. On average, too full, even. Ecologism is also a hobby for people that don't want their kids to starve, as people living in Mesopotamia around the time of Akkad, or people around the Sea of Aral starting in the 1980s have discovered.

nickpp 8d ago
> Almost the entire planet where this debate is raging, is the part of the planet where people have full bellies. Exactly. And most of the pollution happens in the other part. We’re crippling our economies and render our companies uncompetitive to merely export environmental effects around, while pushing our voter base to the extremes. All for naught too, because when the orc armies come (attracted by our weakness to even defend ourselves) they will do the the environment what they did in Ukraine…
- oblio 8d ago
  > And most of the pollution happens in the other part. Where does it happen exactly? > All for naught too, because when the orc armies come (attracted by our weakness to even defend ourselves) they will do the the environment what they did in Ukraine… Who are the orcs here? Russia? Europe is rearming like it's the 1980s.