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If you can solve a problem with Debian and Qemu Proxmox gives you nothing. Better to just use same automation you use for VMs to just keep fleet of bare Debian

If you can solve a problem with Debian and Qemu Proxmox gives you nothing. Better to just use same automation you use for VMs to just keep fleet of bare Debian + KVM machines. Proxmox is for when you don't have a bunch of Linux experts on board. And that's also kinda what enterprises want to pay for, removing "liability" of having to keep very competent team. ...the fact that ends up costing them more everywhere is of no concern to middle management

throw0101a 8d ago
> If you can solve a problem with Debian and Qemu Proxmox gives you nothing. Proxmox gives you centralized management of a fleet of clustered systems with a very handy GUI (as well as CLI and API) that's used by many thousands of installations, which is a lot better than try to cobble together something yourself IMHO. Just because you have "a bunch of Linux experts on board" doesn't mean they have to 'waste' their time on re-inventing the wheel for management of VMs. At my last job we had plenty of Linux folks and primarily ran a whole bunch of OpenStack, but we still used Proxmox for standalone management of VMs for 'tier zero' services (e.g., DNS, SMTP, LDAP, NTP) of various sorts that OpenStack itself depended on.