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I'm am certainly an "ai believer" and have been since I saw the tragectory we were on. It was pretty simple to project the compounding effects and headroom tha

I'm am certainly an "ai believer" and have been since I saw the tragectory we were on. It was pretty simple to project the compounding effects and headroom that we had. I go back and forth on this all the time. There probably won't be much demand for "un-fuckers". Up until recently I thought knowing what to build for a given context would give you quite a bit of runway. I still think knowing what you should build will be important for the next 12-24 months.. but I have to be honest.. after that.. I don't know. I don't know how to feel myself. I'm certainly an "ideas" guy as well as a nitty gritty build it guy. I just think my technical side is depreciating very rapidly.

rubzah 8d ago
Completely agree. Saying this as someone who loves handcrafting code and has been doing it professionally for decades, it looks like a dead end at this point. LLM generated code might not be pretty, but these damn models are already so good at handling complexity, that they can actually work fine with a byzantine code base (which honestly would also describe most human-derived codebases I have worked with). I am still reeling from this realization and trying to figure out what it means.
- aprilthird2021 8d ago
  > these damn models are already so good at handling complexity, that they can actually work fine with a byzantine code base Not really. They're only as good as whatever they are prompted for. If you prompt them for the wrong thing, they'll do it. Great tools, human error
aprilthird2021 8d ago
> I still think knowing what you should build will be important for the next 12-24 months.. but I have to be honest.. after that.. I don't know. I'll bet we'll all still work in software in 24 months
yhcj 8d ago
I used to think there'd be space for unfuckers. Now I'm doubftul. Yeah I could do management and all that crap but I was Eng Manager for 5 months and hated it. Some of us are like huskies, we need to run on the Siberian Permafrost in order to thrive, else we get depressed. That's me.
- aprilthird2021 7d ago
  You're misunderstanding. There is space for people who aren't so stupid that their prompts are stupid and their output is stupid and they sling and spam their stupid shit all over your system and attempt to get it committed and screw everything up.

rubzah 8d ago

Completely agree. Saying this as someone who loves handcrafting code and has been doing it professionally for decades, it looks like a dead end at this point. LLM generated code might not be pretty, but these damn models are already so good at handling complexity, that they can actually work fine with a byzantine code base (which honestly would also describe most human-derived codebases I have worked with). I am still reeling from this realization and trying to figure out what it means.

aprilthird2021 8d ago
> these damn models are already so good at handling complexity, that they can actually work fine with a byzantine code base Not really. They're only as good as whatever they are prompted for. If you prompt them for the wrong thing, they'll do it. Great tools, human error

aprilthird2021 8d ago

> I still think knowing what you should build will be important for the next 12-24 months.. but I have to be honest.. after that.. I don't know. I'll bet we'll all still work in software in 24 months

yhcj 8d ago

I used to think there'd be space for unfuckers. Now I'm doubftul. Yeah I could do management and all that crap but I was Eng Manager for 5 months and hated it. Some of us are like huskies, we need to run on the Siberian Permafrost in order to thrive, else we get depressed. That's me.

aprilthird2021 7d ago
You're misunderstanding. There is space for people who aren't so stupid that their prompts are stupid and their output is stupid and they sling and spam their stupid shit all over your system and attempt to get it committed and screw everything up.