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UAE-based Falcon AI NSFW classifier among top global open-source models (2025)
- ggm 9d agoAlways two sides to classification. Finding and Banning. It's tempting to ask if this is one, the other or both by the same people.
- totetsu 9d agoPlanet-scale nude-selfie extenuation racket?
- nlanandkumar 9d ago[dead]
- DC-3 9d agoCoincidentally I was trying this out yesterday as a potential option for automated porn filtering for the imageboard that I administrate. It is very lightweight which is good but the performance is not great. Some weird false positives and it does a bad job with flat chested women which is very concerning to me because it leads me to think it won’t be effective against CSAM.
- instagraham 9d agoit is amusing that a model from a country that has banned porn would ever be developed. Wouldn't there be hurdles for them to access "data" at every stage? (I know they must have used a VPN for training but it does seem like an added hoop. OFC the UAE's block is also not particularly thorough.) You'd assume such models would do better in a laissez-faire nsfw environment than in a walled garden of relatively-less sin.
- dfish 9d agoIt's for research purposes :wink: :wink:
- sillyfluke 9d agoIt's a story as old as time so I'm frankly less amused by it. The old school censors always saw every "data" that was taboo under the sun prior to censoring it for public consumption.
- waffleiron 9d agoThere are plenty western CSAM detection models
- DC-3 9d agoCan you suggest a good one?
- RobotToaster 9d ago[flagged]
- gumby 9d agoHave you been to the UAE? Sure t the beach there re women in burkinis and more, but also women in two piece bikinis.
- wolvoleo 9d agoThere's a big difference between international jersetters partying in Dubai and locals. The jersetters are basically exempted from the strict laws because they bring in money. Alcohol is illegal there, homosexuality is, even unmarried sex is. I certainly will never visit there even if they choose not to apply those laws to me as a visitor.
- wolvoleo 9d agoSorry for some reason my device keeps correcting 'jetsetters' to 'jersetters' :?
- yreg 8d agoIt is a bit less strict than you think. It's not just about the police giving the tourists some leeway. - Alcohol is fully legal for non-muslims, even if they have residency (or in rare cases citizenship). - Unmarried cohabitation is fully legal, unmarried sex is mostly legal. It can only be prosecuted when a partner is cheating and their wife/husband files a complaint. Or when a minor is involved and their legal guardian files a complaint. On the other hand homosexual and transgender expressions are still illegal, like you say.
- figmert 9d agoWhat a strange Islamophobic comment to make. You should probably go out a little more.
- echelon_musk 9d ago
- unglaublich 9d agoI guess CSAM detection will remain hard as the training data raises so many ethical concerns. I wonder if there's a way in which we can forward-hash sensitive material like CSAM and train a classifier that only consumes the 'hashed' version of the material for training and detection.
- tao_oat 9d agoI believe this is how many CSAM classifiers work. There isn't a simple legal avenue to host CSAM for classifier training, for good reason.
- PxldLtd 9d agoThis is already done, there's hashed indexes of known CSAM and you can apply vector steering to the latent space to shift detections to trigger on CSAM material. You can also use two detectors for age estimation and a separate one for nudity and use them in combination.
- maaaaattttt 9d agoVery naive approach but wouldn't training a model on a few specific buckets like "someone is naked", "image is explicit" and "there is a child" in the picture, would do the job without having to train explicitely on CSAM? If the model returns both a high probability of "there is a child" and a high probability of any other bucket than this image is classified as CSAM. It'd be high recall,low precision but one would be on a rather safe side.
- GoblinSlayer 9d agoShare the training data :)
- DC-3 9d agoIt's just porn I downloaded from Reddit. I don't know if you're aware but there's lots of it and it's free.
- londons_explore 9d agoHow many people download classifiers? The number of downloads really doesn't seem like a good way to measure the quality of a bit of work. One download could be deployed on a bit website and classify billions of users images.
- londons_explore 9d agoSmells like someone is botting the download numbers to get a press release....
- TacticalCoder 9d ago> UAE AI model tops 50 million monthly downloads So in a bit more than a year, 10% of the planet has downloaded a NSFW classifier? I mean: in the end there are only 8 billion people on earth, which projects do, all added up, need to download one NSFW classifier 600 million times a year? Something something something makes me think there are inefficiencies at play here.
- relaxing 9d agoDepends, if every time a project redeploys it redownloads all external resources from their respective CDNs, do you consider that to be inefficient? What if it’s part of a service that runs on thousands of instances to keep up with the volume of user generate content?