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The reason why Apple won is Steve Jobs cared about quality and was an asshole about it and the inertia from that after his death has not entirely decayed yet.
by colechristensen 9d ago
The reason why Apple won is Steve Jobs cared about quality and was an asshole about it and the inertia from that after his death has not entirely decayed yet.
The people in that thread need a good Linus Torvalds style rant about their incompetence and several of them should just have been fired.
- herodotus 9d agoYes. When I was working at Apple, I was developing some animation stuff for Keynote. I came in to work one day, and my build was broken completely. Turned out that Roger Rosner had demonstrated this animation feature to Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs hated it, and before then end of the evening the code had been stripped from the Keynote build.
- colechristensen 9d agoHow did/do you feel about that?
- herodotus 9d agoGood. One of the things I loved about my years working at Apple is that everyone I had dealings with really cared about the user experience.
- vachina 9d agoThis rigor is also upheld to the ODM too. This is why we like to work with them, we all come out learning a lot at the end of the project.
- 0xbadcafebee 9d agoYou don't have to be an asshole to get better quality work. But it's a great way to chase off talented staff that don't need to work with assholes.
- deburo 9d agoIt’s also a great way to retain talent that care about working with like minded people.
- colechristensen 9d agoYou also don't need to live in a fluffy cotton candy world where everyone pretends to be nice. A CEO needs to be able to directly tell people they're doing a bad job and give out consequences for it. Wrapping the same feedback in fluffy feelings oriented language is a different kind of abusiveness (and why I hate California)
- 0xbadcafebee 9d agoA CEO doesn't have to scream or use insults to tell people they're doing a bad job. Both Linus and Steve loved to make people feel bad, which is completely unnecessary to convey work productivity or give an ultimatum. Plenty of other people produce high-quality results without treating others poorly. The justification of abuse is just that - the desire to be abusive, and trying to make it okay by pretending it's necessary. Some people see this behavior and like it, because they too would like to be abusive or see people abused. But it has nothing to do with productivity. It's emotional diarrhea.
- VCFundedGenYer 9d agoCorrect. Jobs was mentally unstable. That is not a role model anyone should look up to.