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Whether or not you iPhone is also doing that is irrelevant. Two surveillance pathways is still inherently worse than one.

• judge2020 9d ago
  Idk, I have a strong feeling Apple is not doing ACR or covert recording themselves, and the OS provides some strong guarantees that you know when the mic is active.
  • mrheosuper 9d ago
    > OS provides some strong guarantees How do you audit that ? it's not like they opensource their OS.
  • 12_throw_away 8d ago
    > I have a strong feeling Apple is not doing ACR or covert recording themselves Feel different™ https://www.reuters.com/legal/apple-pay-95-million-settle-siri-privacy-lawsuit-2025-01-02/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/apple-pay-95-million-settle-si...
    • judge2020 7d ago
      Read the complaint and it is pretty shaky, notably it seems to say that, because wake word detection is not 100% accurate (as in, 0 margin for error), Apple should advertise "we are recording your conversations covertly" just because the phone can sometimes trigger wake word detection on something that isn't the wake word (hey siri). Also Reuters reports " and disclosed these conversations to third parties such as advertisers." but I don't actually see that in the initial complaint interestingly.