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Swift comes to mind, and this website has more https://opensource.apple.com/projects/ https://opensource.apple.com/projects/ (it lists WebKit, but I guess they

Swift comes to mind, and this website has more https://opensource.apple.com/projects/ https://opensource.apple.com/projects/ (it lists WebKit, but I guess they count WebKit after it split from KHTML, I’d agree with you there) Also, Bonjour originated at Apple and it is cross-platform, although Avahi probably is more popular CUPS is associated with Apple as well, but it seems that it also did not originate there

LtWorf 9d ago
Last I heard from CUPS they fired the only guy who was working on it? last thing i found https://mjtsai.com/blog/2025/03/26/apples-dormant-cups/ https://mjtsai.com/blog/2025/03/26/apples-dormant-cups/
zer0zzz 9d ago
I was going to say swift, but I figured someone would undercount that because it is so overly relevant as an iOS/Mac development language even though it really is a pretty good portable language. But man... undercounting webkit and clang+llvm is a new level of ignorance..
- LtWorf 9d ago
  It is ignorance to call them apple projects when they really aren't. The copyright notice of webkit is full of emails like @kde.org… wonder why it's not entirely @apple.com?
  - zer0zzz 8d ago
    The majority of the advancements done to make the standards compliant browser with great js performance were done at Apple. Going by the copyright notice as the the source of a vast majority of the dev in the 2000s seems pretty special.
- brewmarche 9d ago
  They asked about ‘originated’ in particular.
  - zer0zzz 8d ago
    Clang and the arm64 backend did literally originate at Apple. Not sure what you want me to tell you.
    - brewmarche 7d ago
      Apologies, I focused on LLVM as a whole. You are right about clang (and I didn’t know about the arm64 backend)
      - zer0zzz 7d ago
        Actually the arm64 backend is a grey area. I knew some guys that worked on it in secret at Apple. They definitely created and Developed it at Apple and dropped it on the community after the iPhone 5s launched, replacing the existing aarch64 backend. I’m not 100% certain if they started with any bits of the previous aarch64 backend or not though.
    - LtWorf 8d ago
      That's the first thing I saw in the copyright file Copyright: 2003-2017 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
      - zer0zzz 7d ago
        Do you think it was made at Urbana because it uses the uiuc license? I suppose you think everything that uses the mit license originated in cambridge

LtWorf 9d ago

Last I heard from CUPS they fired the only guy who was working on it? last thing i found https://mjtsai.com/blog/2025/03/26/apples-dormant-cups/ https://mjtsai.com/blog/2025/03/26/apples-dormant-cups/

zer0zzz 9d ago

I was going to say swift, but I figured someone would undercount that because it is so overly relevant as an iOS/Mac development language even though it really is a pretty good portable language. But man... undercounting webkit and clang+llvm is a new level of ignorance..

LtWorf 9d ago
It is ignorance to call them apple projects when they really aren't. The copyright notice of webkit is full of emails like @kde.org… wonder why it's not entirely @apple.com?
- zer0zzz 8d ago
  The majority of the advancements done to make the standards compliant browser with great js performance were done at Apple. Going by the copyright notice as the the source of a vast majority of the dev in the 2000s seems pretty special.
brewmarche 9d ago
They asked about ‘originated’ in particular.
- zer0zzz 8d ago
  Clang and the arm64 backend did literally originate at Apple. Not sure what you want me to tell you.
  - brewmarche 7d ago
    Apologies, I focused on LLVM as a whole. You are right about clang (and I didn’t know about the arm64 backend)
    - zer0zzz 7d ago
      Actually the arm64 backend is a grey area. I knew some guys that worked on it in secret at Apple. They definitely created and Developed it at Apple and dropped it on the community after the iPhone 5s launched, replacing the existing aarch64 backend. I’m not 100% certain if they started with any bits of the previous aarch64 backend or not though.
  - LtWorf 8d ago
    That's the first thing I saw in the copyright file Copyright: 2003-2017 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
    - zer0zzz 7d ago
      Do you think it was made at Urbana because it uses the uiuc license? I suppose you think everything that uses the mit license originated in cambridge