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It’s mesmerizing to see how easy it has been to transform the USA into what was decried China to become about 5 years ago. You see some form of resistance (the

by LeBit 10d ago

It’s mesmerizing to see how easy it has been to transform the USA into what was decried China to become about 5 years ago. You see some form of resistance (the guy that was caught with a truck full of cut Flock cameras) but it seems the population is resigned.

mitxela 10d ago
They say "every accusation is a confession" yet I'm still continually surprised by accusations that I never thought would turn out to be confessions, turning out to be confessions. Like the Chinese surveillance state. It seems to be a type of psychological projection - someone harbors an ideal like a surveillance state and assumes everyone else is harboring the same ideal so they accuse them. I hope the Uyghur genocide accusation doesn't turn out to be a confession.
- Sharlin 10d ago
  Well, the Chinese surveillance state in the US took off 25 years ago, give or take a few days.
  - paimapi 9d ago
    it's been around for quite a lot longer than that. 1984 was written in 1949 and wasn't strictly inspired by only fascist regimes - there were and still are a lot of similarities (eg ethnosupremaccy, nativism, etc) that have deep roots elsewhere https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_the_United_States#Post_World_War_I https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_the_Unite... >With the end of World War II, Project SHAMROCK was established in 1945. The organization was created to accumulate telegraphic data entering and exiting from the United States.[4][22] Major communication companies such as Western Union, RCA Global and ITT World Communications actively aided the project, allowing American intelligence officials to gain access to international message traffic.[23] Under the project, and many subsequent programs, no precedent had been established for judicial authorization, and no warrants were issued for surveillance activities. The project was terminated in 1975.[4]

by LeBit 10d ago

mitxela 10d ago

They say "every accusation is a confession" yet I'm still continually surprised by accusations that I never thought would turn out to be confessions, turning out to be confessions. Like the Chinese surveillance state. It seems to be a type of psychological projection - someone harbors an ideal like a surveillance state and assumes everyone else is harboring the same ideal so they accuse them. I hope the Uyghur genocide accusation doesn't turn out to be a confession.

Sharlin 10d ago
Well, the Chinese surveillance state in the US took off 25 years ago, give or take a few days.
- paimapi 9d ago
  it's been around for quite a lot longer than that. 1984 was written in 1949 and wasn't strictly inspired by only fascist regimes - there were and still are a lot of similarities (eg ethnosupremaccy, nativism, etc) that have deep roots elsewhere https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_the_United_States#Post_World_War_I https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_the_Unite... >With the end of World War II, Project SHAMROCK was established in 1945. The organization was created to accumulate telegraphic data entering and exiting from the United States.[4][22] Major communication companies such as Western Union, RCA Global and ITT World Communications actively aided the project, allowing American intelligence officials to gain access to international message traffic.[23] Under the project, and many subsequent programs, no precedent had been established for judicial authorization, and no warrants were issued for surveillance activities. The project was terminated in 1975.[4]