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You're thinking of pre-LLM times. Nowadays GPT-6 can probably advise them better than all the worlds law firms combined. And probably win too, considering the i
by rfgplk 10d ago
You're thinking of pre-LLM times. Nowadays GPT-6 can probably advise them better than all the worlds law firms combined. And probably win too, considering the incompetence (and tech illiteracy) of human lawyers.
- opello 10d agoHave citations of case law that doesn't exist been addressed? It seemed like that kind of outcome being punished might make people less likely to try relying on LLM output for legal situations without an expert human performing a review.
- 15155 10d agoYou presume opposing counsel isn't using GPT-6 and other, legal-specific models trained on data ChatGPT will never gain access to. Hint: they are. Regardless of advice quality, legal proceedings aren't free-to-play, and the adversary in question here has bottomless pockets.
- loa_in_ 10d agoSuch speculation is just fear mongering and that is exactly what the daft bullies want.
- 15155 10d agoIt's not speculation, it's simple fact. Both Lexis and Westlaw already have LLM integration that smokes the frontier models in this regard. The best legal professionals, just like the best software engineers, have wholly embraced LLM assistance. "Gee, we bill $700/hr but just can't figure out how to put a prompt into a chat interface." Please.
- gamblor956 10d agoNo they don't, and no they haven't. LLMs have been making so many mistakes that the big firms have slowed or even paused their LLM spend. And that was before CA passed a law relating legal AI use.
- Terr_ 10d agoIt's kinda-crazy the degree to which legal data--which you need for a fair trial under the law--is locked up by monopolistic brokers. FFS, we're already at the edge of having to pay to know what the laws even are. [0] [0] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/pro-codes-act-wolf-sheeps-clothing https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/pro-codes-act-wolf-she...
- 15155 9d agoWhat's even crazier is that those brokers typically won't sell to members of the general public; there exists basically no reasonable ability to obtain most case law in most states.
- Old_Thrashbarg 9d agoIndeed the Pro Codes Act is still being pushed hard to this day. Here's an article from this Congress: https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewleahey/2025/06/26/pro-codes-act-or-what-if-the-law-came-behind-a-paywall/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewleahey/2025/06/26/pro-cod... Imagine having to buy a subscription to the laws you must follow or potentially be imprisoned for violating.
- tyjen 10d agoAdvice? Maybe ballpark quality if you can avoid hallucinations. The legal connections that will help net you a win, certainly not.
- ValentineC 10d agoA problem right now is that GPT-6 is just a chatbot, and wouldn't be able to file any counterclaims (which involve human lawyers and billable hours) when fElon decides to wage a battle of attrition in the courtrooms.
- dgrin91 10d agoOptimistically assuming you can do a lot of stuff well with GPT-6 in the legal space, its still going to be a lot of money - 1. Various court fees may still be thousands 2. You still will likely need to have at least _some_ legal representation. Not as much as before, but still thousands of dollars worth 3. You need to pray that your non-legal brain can catch any issues, both strategic & tactical, that GPT-6 produces because X's lawyers will be happy to pounce.