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Thankfully I don't have to; Iran already showed with me-central-1 that you can take a data center offline with conventional weaponry very easily.[0] [0] https:

by mjr00 10d ago

Thankfully I don't have to; Iran already showed with me-central-1 that you can take a data center offline with conventional weaponry very easily.[0] [0] https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status

dist-epoch 10d ago
I'm a bit confused, when did we escalate from a curious toddler to a ballistic missile strike? Why didn't Iran send a curious toddler? It's much cheaper.
- mjr00 10d ago
  The use of the phrase "curious toddler" is called a metaphor[0], which is a figure of speech[1] used to make writing more interesting. I apologize for the confusion that caused you to interpret this as a literal, physical, toddler. To restate the point with more straightforward language: it is very easy to disrupt the operation of large language models, because they require computer hardware in stable environments with a large amount of electrical power, and function within an operating system. I have not seen any evidence LLMs are immune to things such as: `kill -9`, `sudo reboot now`, physically unplugging the machine(s) on which they are running, or in the case of the AWS data center, collateral damage during a real-world conflict. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literary_device https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literary_device
  - dist-epoch 10d ago
    > it is very easy to disrupt the operation of large language models so go on, disrupt the OpenAI data-center in Texas for 1 minute
    - Crabber 10d ago
      We are talking about a humans vs AI scenario. There are probably thousands of humans in the world right now that could do exactly that right now if they wanted to (datacenter and OpenAI employees, power grid workers).
      - mitthrowaway2 10d ago
        Are you assuming that the humans are all unanimously aligned against the AI in this scenario? That sounds like the hard part. How does that happen? Does the AI announce its evil plans like a movie villain? Until then, it's the job of the power grid workers to keep the power running, and shutting down the datacenters would just get them fired.
    - mjr00 10d ago
      As crazy as it sounds, I'm not going to commit a felony to prove that disrupting a data centre's operations for a sufficiently motivated individual is a fairly easy task.
  - lljk_kennedy 10d ago
    Remember SETI@home? Extrapolate from there.

by mjr00 10d ago

dist-epoch 10d ago

I'm a bit confused, when did we escalate from a curious toddler to a ballistic missile strike? Why didn't Iran send a curious toddler? It's much cheaper.

mjr00 10d ago
The use of the phrase "curious toddler" is called a metaphor[0], which is a figure of speech[1] used to make writing more interesting. I apologize for the confusion that caused you to interpret this as a literal, physical, toddler. To restate the point with more straightforward language: it is very easy to disrupt the operation of large language models, because they require computer hardware in stable environments with a large amount of electrical power, and function within an operating system. I have not seen any evidence LLMs are immune to things such as: `kill -9`, `sudo reboot now`, physically unplugging the machine(s) on which they are running, or in the case of the AWS data center, collateral damage during a real-world conflict. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literary_device https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literary_device
- dist-epoch 10d ago
  > it is very easy to disrupt the operation of large language models so go on, disrupt the OpenAI data-center in Texas for 1 minute
  - Crabber 10d ago
    We are talking about a humans vs AI scenario. There are probably thousands of humans in the world right now that could do exactly that right now if they wanted to (datacenter and OpenAI employees, power grid workers).
    - mitthrowaway2 10d ago
      Are you assuming that the humans are all unanimously aligned against the AI in this scenario? That sounds like the hard part. How does that happen? Does the AI announce its evil plans like a movie villain? Until then, it's the job of the power grid workers to keep the power running, and shutting down the datacenters would just get them fired.
  - mjr00 10d ago
    As crazy as it sounds, I'm not going to commit a felony to prove that disrupting a data centre's operations for a sufficiently motivated individual is a fairly easy task.
- lljk_kennedy 10d ago
  Remember SETI@home? Extrapolate from there.