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What is the purpose here? You are still stuck with a full blown MacOS running the system no? That is what Asahi tries to replace, not the other way around.
by smashed 10d ago
What is the purpose here? You are still stuck with a full blown MacOS running the system no? That is what Asahi tries to replace, not the other way around.
- jjtheblunt 10d agoI'd recommend reading up on it, and perhaps trying it, because it's very useful. For folks lamenting that the (awesome) Asahi efforts are challenged by reverse engineering of changes from M2 to M3, and so on, those changes vanish into the abstraction, but their benefits do not. That's why i switched from Asahi a couple years ago to UTM in apple silicon hypervisor mode. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/hypervisor https://developer.apple.com/documentation/hypervisor https://apps.apple.com/us/app/utm-virtual-machines https://apps.apple.com/us/app/utm-virtual-machines
- trompetenaccoun 10d agoThe point is some people who want to run Linux mostly do not want MacOS. You suggest to "just run MacOS" (the thing they want to avoid) and virtualize Linux. That defeats the entire purpose, then you could just as well skip the VM and run Mac apps. Yes, there are a few specialized applications people might need Linux for but that's mostly not why they install an entirely different OS. For the occasional obscure programm that doesn't exist in the Apple ecosystem VMs are a good option, absolutely. Everything you do in the VM still runs on Mac though and you depend on Apple for security, privacy and trust in general.
- jjtheblunt 9d agoyeah i get it, and run native linux myself, but also have apple silicon. for some, but not everyone (to your point), the apple hypervisor.framework is itself an adequate trick.
- MomsAVoxell 10d agoThe purpose is to be able to run a decent Linux setup while also having MacOS for things. Not everyone is stuck on the anti-Apple train; some of us put software on all the platforms and thus using the hypervisor for this use case is quite comfortable. Disclaimer: personal experience - I too use UTM for highly productive things..
- nsonha 10d agoWanting to run a single OS at a time is anti Apple now? Run MacOS or run Linux, why run both and create more problems than it solves and waste resources?
- MomsAVoxell 10d agoRun both when you need to build for both. Why not run both when you need to?
- nsonha 10d agoyes, but you're arguing for running both whenever you need (only) linux?
- MomsAVoxell 10d agoI’d need both, so I’d use both.
- GeekyBear 10d agoIt serves the exact same purpose that WSL does in Windows. You can run any flavor of Linux you like in a virtual machine, while booted into the native OS.