It's not that it has disappeared it's that vendor-specific cloud has become too normal. And for the record obviously I'm not advocating for going back to the d

It's not that it has disappeared it's that vendor-specific cloud has become too normal. And for the record obviously I'm not advocating for going back to the dark ages, ftp / php / shared hosting also had massive issues, my point was that things were _designed_ to be simple and the model in your head was simple and close to the metal. If you're joining an existing project today, or like OP's problem/solution you just want to self-host something, maybe even just to evaluate it, it has become a headache. I've never actually seen a "real" containerised app, one that was 100% agnostic and simple to deploy without multiple exceptions for 3rd party services and so on.