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who wants a "strict vegan diet" ? I see detractors who want to derail the topic using distasteful, demanding examples..

epistasis 12d ago
The person I'm responding to is the one who brought it up. I live in a very leftist place, and there were always those at climate events demanding "strict vegan diets" however I didn't see these people out in the general world outside of my little leftist bubble, trying to actually get their idea out there. I agree with Michael Mann that what most of the public only encounters this idea of "strict vegan diets is a required climate solutions" by hearing it from climate denialists poisoning the well of climate action. But I also see this idea online, and in meat space in very isolated areas. So the idea of "strict vegan diets" is a real idea on the fringe, but its overall effect on climate action has been to turn people against climate action in the US.
- chuckadams 12d ago
  > and in meat space an odd place to be a hotbed of vegan advocacy.
  - epistasis 12d ago
    Hah! https://terrybisson.com/theyre-made-out-of-meat-2/ https://terrybisson.com/theyre-made-out-of-meat-2/ Many vegans I know were in fact motivated to that choice by realizing that meetings of humans were in fact "meat space."
    - chuckadams 12d ago
      https://yellow5.com/pokey/archive/index312.html https://yellow5.com/pokey/archive/index312.html MY LUNGS ARE ADAPTING! I'VE INHALED A ROAST
- mistrial9 12d ago
  ok - I am impressed that you quote Michael Mann! yes agree there are loudmouths on all sides of this topic. Thank you for the considered reply
- croes 12d ago
  I‘m pretty sure they mention a strict vegan diet as only a part of the solution. And it’s a fact that meat needs more resources and produces more CO2 and methane then plant based food. It would already help to consume less meat. It seems to me you focus on vegan diet to use the annoying vegan stereotype for your purposes.

The person I'm responding to is the one who brought it up. I live in a very leftist place, and there were always those at climate events demanding "strict vegan diets" however I didn't see these people out in the general world outside of my little leftist bubble, trying to actually get their idea out there. I agree with Michael Mann that what most of the public only encounters this idea of "strict vegan diets is a required climate solutions" by hearing it from climate denialists poisoning the well of climate action. But I also see this idea online, and in meat space in very isolated areas. So the idea of "strict vegan diets" is a real idea on the fringe, but its overall effect on climate action has been to turn people against climate action in the US.

chuckadams 12d ago
> and in meat space an odd place to be a hotbed of vegan advocacy.
- epistasis 12d ago
  Hah! https://terrybisson.com/theyre-made-out-of-meat-2/ https://terrybisson.com/theyre-made-out-of-meat-2/ Many vegans I know were in fact motivated to that choice by realizing that meetings of humans were in fact "meat space."
  - chuckadams 12d ago
    https://yellow5.com/pokey/archive/index312.html https://yellow5.com/pokey/archive/index312.html MY LUNGS ARE ADAPTING! I'VE INHALED A ROAST
mistrial9 12d ago
ok - I am impressed that you quote Michael Mann! yes agree there are loudmouths on all sides of this topic. Thank you for the considered reply
croes 12d ago
I‘m pretty sure they mention a strict vegan diet as only a part of the solution. And it’s a fact that meat needs more resources and produces more CO2 and methane then plant based food. It would already help to consume less meat. It seems to me you focus on vegan diet to use the annoying vegan stereotype for your purposes.