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> But most of the supposed "bugs" seem like totally fine/reasonable behaviors to me exactly. and the same is true for many of the bugs that have been presented
by postflopclarity 12d ago
> But most of the supposed "bugs" seem like totally fine/reasonable behaviors to me
exactly. and the same is true for many of the bugs that have been presented as indictments of Julia. but when the same is said of those, the community is called "defensive." so it's a lose-lose.
- Intralexical 12d agoThere is no equivalence here. The Julia bugs were real. They were reported, accepted, and fixed. The Python bugs you linked to are fake LLM slop, see my other comment right above/below this one. [0] If anyone really believes the Python bugs are real, they should report it to Python, not use it to deflect from Julia's issues. What's been presented as an indictment of Julia (in Yuri's own post and after) is the fact that members of the Julia community have vocally downplayed problems and played the victim when quality concerns have been raised, as I think you're doing. Do you want to convince everybody you've "won" "a lose-lose"? Or do you want to write correct programs? I like Julia, the language and the tech. I really hope this hostile attitude towards criticism and growth fades eventually, because I'd like to be able to use and trust it at some point. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49570973 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49570973
- postflopclarity 12d agoI am not hostile to criticism. > If anyone really believes the Python bugs are real, they should report it to Python I have reported several bugs, both to Python and to Julia. I'm not going to engage further in this thread, but if you want to continue discussion I'd be happy to chat somewhere else that's a little less clunky