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EU regulations already mandate that the batteries should be user-replaceable and other parts easily replaceable. The difference between Fairphone and the compet

EU regulations already mandate that the batteries should be user-replaceable and other parts easily replaceable. The difference between Fairphone and the competition will narrow in the future. Except for the fact that Samsung is the 800 pounds gorilla in the smartphone space which you'll know will be around for some time. How long is Fairphone going to last? Maybe the founders want to retire early and sell to the highest bidder. I'd much rather see them running GrapheneOS or /e/OS on it also.

robin_reala 12d ago
There’s a get-out clause in the law that allows your battery not to be required to be user replaceable if it can last 1,000 cycles while remaining at 80+%. Apple’s phones certainly meet that these days, and I imagine Samsung’s will as well (though I’m not sure if silicon carbide changes that at all).
- gib444 12d ago
  > There’s a get-out clause in the law As all too common GDPR: "legimate interest" EU261: "exceptional circumstances", no deadlines for paying compensation etc yes yes, "no law is perfect" etc..nobody could foresee anything...downvote away
  - fsflover 12d ago
    > GDPR: "legimate interest" It doesn't allow spying though. It allows, e.g., to save your session if you intentionally logged in.
    - dzikimarian 12d ago
      That's different setting. Typical "legitimate interest" section is about sharing data with 40 "trusted partners".
      - izacus 12d ago
        That's just plainly false.
        dzikimarian 8d ago
        Have you actually looked at one? I opened Google News. First site I've seen is t3.com - some review of pebble wearable. I was greeted by cookie dialog. I clicked "more info" -> "partners" -> "legitimate interest". 131 vendors, including among other "Adform - agentic advertising" who wishes to store laundry list of my data for 10 years.
        fsflover 6d ago
        This is illegal under GDPR and should be reported.
      - fsflover 12d ago
        This is illegal.

robin_reala 12d ago

There’s a get-out clause in the law that allows your battery not to be required to be user replaceable if it can last 1,000 cycles while remaining at 80+%. Apple’s phones certainly meet that these days, and I imagine Samsung’s will as well (though I’m not sure if silicon carbide changes that at all).

gib444 12d ago
> There’s a get-out clause in the law As all too common GDPR: "legimate interest" EU261: "exceptional circumstances", no deadlines for paying compensation etc yes yes, "no law is perfect" etc..nobody could foresee anything...downvote away
- fsflover 12d ago
  > GDPR: "legimate interest" It doesn't allow spying though. It allows, e.g., to save your session if you intentionally logged in.
  - dzikimarian 12d ago
    That's different setting. Typical "legitimate interest" section is about sharing data with 40 "trusted partners".
    - izacus 12d ago
      That's just plainly false.
      - dzikimarian 8d ago
        Have you actually looked at one? I opened Google News. First site I've seen is t3.com - some review of pebble wearable. I was greeted by cookie dialog. I clicked "more info" -> "partners" -> "legitimate interest". 131 vendors, including among other "Adform - agentic advertising" who wishes to store laundry list of my data for 10 years.
        fsflover 6d ago
        This is illegal under GDPR and should be reported.
    - fsflover 12d ago
      This is illegal.