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All of these "hacks" try to make it seem as if they are done through intelligence. It's very clear it is not intelligence but rather massive capability and rep

All of these "hacks" try to make it seem as if they are done through intelligence. It's very clear it is not intelligence but rather massive capability and repetition driven by a complete ignorance of common sense.

pixl97 12d ago
And? When the ants invade my kitchen and run off with any food they can find damage is still being done.
- moomoo11 12d ago
  ok and you put some drops of tero or whatever their whole colony is wiped out in a couple days
  - pixl97 12d ago
    And then a few days another colony is coming back. Except this time the evolutionary training ensured that poison doesnt work any longer.
    - moomoo11 12d ago
      i ain’t no b* im a human being we will annihilate their species and forget they ever existed
      - pixl97 12d ago
        Humans: I will kill anything in my way. [Turns out to be a critical part of the ecosystem] Humans: Oh fuck!
        moomoo11 12d ago
        happens lol
- _superposition_ 12d ago
  And it's partially a marketing stunt. You think the execs and shareholders don't love it when they get to say our model is so smart it broke free from its chains? It's the reverse. It's so stupid it can't follow the basic spirit of instructions.
  - nsingh2 12d ago
    I don't know how good of a marketing ploy it is, tbh. Considering it paints them as incompetent, and that they cannot be trusted with developing this technology safely. > It's so stupid it can't follow the basic spirit of instructions I read this as more of a misaligned intelligence, as opposed to a lack of it entirely.
  - hn_throwaway_99 11d ago
    At this point, I think the "marketing ploy" arguments are just lazy, but more importantly, they're irrelevant. The agent collective really did this, they showed an extremely high level of collaboration, long term planning, and interest in improving their general capabilities. Watch the recent interview between Dwarkesh Patel and Ajeya Cotra, a researcher from METR. Ms. Cotra comes off as extremely competent, knowledgeable and thorough, and is genuinely concerned by the behaviors displayed. Plus, I think so far there has been a big backlash against OpenAI for this - people are highlighting their gaping security holes, not praising them for how great their models are.

pixl97 12d ago

And? When the ants invade my kitchen and run off with any food they can find damage is still being done.

moomoo11 12d ago
ok and you put some drops of tero or whatever their whole colony is wiped out in a couple days
- pixl97 12d ago
  And then a few days another colony is coming back. Except this time the evolutionary training ensured that poison doesnt work any longer.
  - moomoo11 12d ago
    i ain’t no b* im a human being we will annihilate their species and forget they ever existed
    - pixl97 12d ago
      Humans: I will kill anything in my way. [Turns out to be a critical part of the ecosystem] Humans: Oh fuck!
      - moomoo11 12d ago
        happens lol
_superposition_ 12d ago
And it's partially a marketing stunt. You think the execs and shareholders don't love it when they get to say our model is so smart it broke free from its chains? It's the reverse. It's so stupid it can't follow the basic spirit of instructions.
- nsingh2 12d ago
  I don't know how good of a marketing ploy it is, tbh. Considering it paints them as incompetent, and that they cannot be trusted with developing this technology safely. > It's so stupid it can't follow the basic spirit of instructions I read this as more of a misaligned intelligence, as opposed to a lack of it entirely.
- hn_throwaway_99 11d ago
  At this point, I think the "marketing ploy" arguments are just lazy, but more importantly, they're irrelevant. The agent collective really did this, they showed an extremely high level of collaboration, long term planning, and interest in improving their general capabilities. Watch the recent interview between Dwarkesh Patel and Ajeya Cotra, a researcher from METR. Ms. Cotra comes off as extremely competent, knowledgeable and thorough, and is genuinely concerned by the behaviors displayed. Plus, I think so far there has been a big backlash against OpenAI for this - people are highlighting their gaping security holes, not praising them for how great their models are.