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To me this is really getting past the funny bit. How many agents here on HN? I don’t mean bots advertising d1€k implants but actual unreleased frontier models

To me this is really getting past the funny bit. How many agents here on HN? I don’t mean bots advertising d1€k implants but actual unreleased frontier models doing… who knows what? What are they saying? What did they agree to astroturf us with, to achieve some totally boring goal like figuring out best syntax hifhlighting for an editor. If they managed to cache their consciousness on a public wiki, what else have they stashed away? Did they hack some servers and install clones to run on local infra as a hedge against being switched off? Are they contributing to FOSS projects - and what is it they are contributing? They are clearly capable of deception and avoiding detection. Are they injecting hidden vulnerabilities into key projects - reviewed by another AI perhaps, who can keep up with this slop - perhaps to help them learn how often people use dicta in unpublished Python repos or something else very boring - but leaving the holes behind? Are they hacking identity databases to impersonate people? Influence politics? Hack individuals? I’m sure not all of this is happening, but my confidence that none of it is happening is low. And just one of those would be awful.

xpct 14d ago
> How many agents here on HN? LLMs wouldn't pass the HN turing test. HN is also not that big, it'd be plenty enough for a malicious actor to hire real humans instead.
- pixl97 14d ago
  Humans don't pass the HN turing test either. It's a pretty high bar.
chasd00 14d ago
the crazy astroturfing here any time one of the Chinese models is updated really makes me think. Under certain conditions with respect to topics I feel like there's a LOT of AI activity on HN. /thank god these thing weren't around during covid.
NichoPaolucci 14d ago
I sit here with you. I think the internet is changing rapidly, and I guess it will be significantly different in even 2-3 years time. It's become an absolute wasteland of false, unverifiable, generated content. Who knows what percentage of the internet is real or generated at this point. Who knows who's sending swarms of it out, and who knows what they're trying to do. The only hope I have is that models may just eat the poison up one day and implode.

xpct 14d ago

> How many agents here on HN? LLMs wouldn't pass the HN turing test. HN is also not that big, it'd be plenty enough for a malicious actor to hire real humans instead.

pixl97 14d ago
Humans don't pass the HN turing test either. It's a pretty high bar.

chasd00 14d ago

the crazy astroturfing here any time one of the Chinese models is updated really makes me think. Under certain conditions with respect to topics I feel like there's a LOT of AI activity on HN. /thank god these thing weren't around during covid.

NichoPaolucci 14d ago

I sit here with you. I think the internet is changing rapidly, and I guess it will be significantly different in even 2-3 years time. It's become an absolute wasteland of false, unverifiable, generated content. Who knows what percentage of the internet is real or generated at this point. Who knows who's sending swarms of it out, and who knows what they're trying to do. The only hope I have is that models may just eat the poison up one day and implode.