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I have no idea what you're implying. How does the wolf comparison make this a racism thing? He's saying that he wants the homeless people who poop in the bushe

I have no idea what you're implying. How does the wolf comparison make this a racism thing? He's saying that he wants the homeless people who poop in the bushes deported because like wolves there are too many, and they're dangerous. People who poop in public are like that. It has very little to do with racism as far as I can tell. I'm as liberal as they come, but I draw the line at shrubbery-shitting.

Hikikomori 13d ago
Prey/predator analogies is what you'd find in der sturmer in the 30s.
dismalaf 13d ago
> I have no idea what you're implying. How does the wolf comparison make this a racism thing? I was trying to reinforce it by saying the wolf comparison is a current public safety concern and has nothing to do with comparing Romani to actual animals.
- mapontosevenths 13d ago
  I just didn't grasp what you meant, I thought you were saying there was some nuance to the local politics I missed. Thanks for clarifying.
KennyBlanken 13d ago
> How does the wolf comparison make this a racism thing? Because wolves are being used as a dogwhistle/proxy for "migrants" by the far right. Denmark has a problem with wolves crossing into Denmark. So the far right gives speeches about what a menace wolves are, they don't belong here, they don't deserve to be here, they're not FROM here" and so on - while doing a lot of theatrical smiling and winking, or just shifting right into talking about immigrants and migrants, "totally separately and unconnected, bro! I just wanted to talk about them both while i was here!" You might want to not take anything David Hamburger Helper says at face value given he perpetuates far-right conspiracies / racist tropes like "Pakistani rape gangs."
- bulbar 13d ago
  "So the far right gives speeches about what a menace wolves are, they don't belong here, they don't deserve to be here, they're not FROM here"" That doesn't sound like a far right position though, just advocating for less or even no migration (from outside EU I guess).
  - defrost 13d ago
    The "wolves" are, IIRC, "Romanian" gypsies - people that have lived for many generations within a number of European countries. Romania is part of the EU, when DHH suggests they are wolves that need to be deported, where is he suggesting they be deported to? The history of their arrival in Romania, around 1370, is presented below. ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people_in_Romania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people_in_Romania Bear in mind the specific "gypsies" he had a bit of a rant about may well have been in 'his' country for a few generations already. > That doesn't sound like a far right position though And yet, they were on Hitler's list that included Jews, Gays, Disabled, Pinko's, etc.
    - veeti 13d ago
      This seems like a common misconception, but it actually isn't an indivisible human right to settle in another EU country if you don't have the means to support yourself [1]. If you have ever been engaged by them, it's obvious the sort of "gypsies" panhandling and pooping on Copenhagen or Helsinki streets clearly do not meet the criteria and are not citizens. Left, right, north or south on the political compass, all parties are in agreement about this, and thousands of people are deported from Denmark every year without Alligator Alcatraz concentration camps or other platitudes about nazism. [1] https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/residence-rights/index_en.htm https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/residence-ri...
      - defrost 13d ago
        > the sort of "gypsies" panhandling and pooping on Copenhagen or Helsinki streets clearly do not meet the criteria and are not citizens. I'm guessing by the quotes on "gypsies" that these are not the Roma that have been in and out of Finland and Denmark since the 16th century .. but apparently still being used as a slur after several hundred years? ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Roma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Roma Ah, well, baby steps.
tastyface 13d ago
"When wolves get out of control, you shoot them. When gypsies take over public spaces, you deport them." This is not "homeless pooping in the bushes," but just "gypsies". And the (very, very intentional) juxtaposition of killing wolves to deporting an entire ethnic group is revolting.

Hikikomori 13d ago

Prey/predator analogies is what you'd find in der sturmer in the 30s.

dismalaf 13d ago

> I have no idea what you're implying. How does the wolf comparison make this a racism thing? I was trying to reinforce it by saying the wolf comparison is a current public safety concern and has nothing to do with comparing Romani to actual animals.

mapontosevenths 13d ago
I just didn't grasp what you meant, I thought you were saying there was some nuance to the local politics I missed. Thanks for clarifying.

KennyBlanken 13d ago

> How does the wolf comparison make this a racism thing? Because wolves are being used as a dogwhistle/proxy for "migrants" by the far right. Denmark has a problem with wolves crossing into Denmark. So the far right gives speeches about what a menace wolves are, they don't belong here, they don't deserve to be here, they're not FROM here" and so on - while doing a lot of theatrical smiling and winking, or just shifting right into talking about immigrants and migrants, "totally separately and unconnected, bro! I just wanted to talk about them both while i was here!" You might want to not take anything David Hamburger Helper says at face value given he perpetuates far-right conspiracies / racist tropes like "Pakistani rape gangs."

bulbar 13d ago
"So the far right gives speeches about what a menace wolves are, they don't belong here, they don't deserve to be here, they're not FROM here"" That doesn't sound like a far right position though, just advocating for less or even no migration (from outside EU I guess).
- defrost 13d ago
  The "wolves" are, IIRC, "Romanian" gypsies - people that have lived for many generations within a number of European countries. Romania is part of the EU, when DHH suggests they are wolves that need to be deported, where is he suggesting they be deported to? The history of their arrival in Romania, around 1370, is presented below. ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people_in_Romania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people_in_Romania Bear in mind the specific "gypsies" he had a bit of a rant about may well have been in 'his' country for a few generations already. > That doesn't sound like a far right position though And yet, they were on Hitler's list that included Jews, Gays, Disabled, Pinko's, etc.
  - veeti 13d ago
    This seems like a common misconception, but it actually isn't an indivisible human right to settle in another EU country if you don't have the means to support yourself [1]. If you have ever been engaged by them, it's obvious the sort of "gypsies" panhandling and pooping on Copenhagen or Helsinki streets clearly do not meet the criteria and are not citizens. Left, right, north or south on the political compass, all parties are in agreement about this, and thousands of people are deported from Denmark every year without Alligator Alcatraz concentration camps or other platitudes about nazism. [1] https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/residence-rights/index_en.htm https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/residence-ri...
    - defrost 13d ago
      > the sort of "gypsies" panhandling and pooping on Copenhagen or Helsinki streets clearly do not meet the criteria and are not citizens. I'm guessing by the quotes on "gypsies" that these are not the Roma that have been in and out of Finland and Denmark since the 16th century .. but apparently still being used as a slur after several hundred years? ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Roma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Roma Ah, well, baby steps.

tastyface 13d ago

"When wolves get out of control, you shoot them. When gypsies take over public spaces, you deport them." This is not "homeless pooping in the bushes," but just "gypsies". And the (very, very intentional) juxtaposition of killing wolves to deporting an entire ethnic group is revolting.