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To an archeologist, 'civilization' refers to builders of walled cities inhabited by non-farmers with complex social sructure, division of labor, and usually som
by ahazred8ta 13d ago
To an archeologist, 'civilization' refers to builders of walled cities inhabited by non-farmers with complex social sructure, division of labor, and usually some form of taxation. Highly moral hunter gatherers living in mud huts are not a 'civilization' in this context. Now you know.
- thataccount 13d ago[flagged]
- krapp 13d agoThe vast majority of Africans aren't hunter-gatherers living in mud huts. They have actual cities with highways and skyscrapers and everything.
- thataccount 13d agoI'm not arguing for what is a majority. I'm talking about the large portions of Africa that still live in a hunter-gatherer situations in mud huts.
- krapp 13d agoAfrica comprises an entire continent. There are not large portions of it (or "large swaths") where people still live as hunter-gatherers living in mud huts, for any reasonable definition of "large portion."
- thataccount 12d ago> for any reasonable definition of "large portion." I'm sure those relatively voiceless cultures will appreciate your minimization of their contribution to the peoples of Africa.
- krapp 12d agoYou're the one who was claiming most Africans were hut-dwelling hunter-gatherers earlier. I'm not the one minimizing anything or anyone, just stop it.
- thataccount 12d agoUh, what? I'm not sure where you are pulling that accusation from. I said very succinctly that I was not talking about what was the majority in Africa. I think you are confused.
- jfjdkdkdkd 10d agoits sad that your ideology allows you to tell lies without an oz of shame.
- rsynnott 10d ago… Eh? Even by the most generous possible definitions (including people who are primarily hunter gatherer but interact with the local economy to some extent), there are only on the order of tens of thousands of hunter gatherers today, worldwide. As for mud huts, still commonly used in some places; there’s nothing particularly wrong with mud/earth construction if it works in your local climate.
- ahazred8ta 13d agoVillages in New Guinea, the Amazon, etc, the word you're looking for is 'cultures'. Cultures: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_Pottery_culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_Pottery_culture & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamnaya_culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamnaya_culture & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corded_Ware_culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corded_Ware_culture & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people Civilizations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Great_Zimbabwe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Great_Zimbabwe & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_Empire & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_Valley_Civilisation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_Valley_Civilisation & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztecs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztecs The reason we're talking about the recipe is because it's one of the oldest recorded recipes, which is because they had writing.
- thataccount 12d ago>'cultures'. That's interesting, because I don't really think of a "culture" as smaller than a "civilization". I think of a culture being a necessary thread that runs through a civilization and without which there are no civilizations.
- TFNA 10d agoTraveling overland across Africa will swiftly disabuse you of the notion that hunter/gatherer lifestyles make up any "large portion" of the continent's population. It would hardly even be feasible in the face of massive deforestation and population boom.