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> They're insane and should not be in charge. I remember back when we had to write mechanize scripts to drive a browser through the renewal process, because if
by jaggederest 13d ago
> They're insane and should not be in charge.
I remember back when we had to write mechanize scripts to drive a browser through the renewal process, because if you had dozens, hundreds, or thousands of domains there was no nonmanual way, especially if you wanted extended verification or something silly like that.
So what I'm saying is, agreed and that has always been true.
- account42 13d agoThat actually sounds like a good thing. Why are you hording hundreds or thousands of domains?
- skywhopper 13d agoReally large companies have lots of domains even if they aren’t “hoarding” them. But even a few dozen domains is enough to need automation.
- jaggederest 13d agoI was working for a company that had hundreds and thousands of domains. It was a fortune 50 company, and they had a policy generally against wildcard domains.
- SpaceNugget 13d agoWhat do you mean wildcard domain? Are you perhaps confusing domain renewals with dns entries?
- AznHisoka 13d agoNot OP, but I am guessing they have domains like fordcareers.com or fordsecurity.com instead of careers.fore.com or security.ford.com, etc
- jaggederest 12d agoExactly what they did in many instances.
- arcfour 12d agoThis really grinds my gears, way more than it should for some reason. Use the system as it was intended, people!
- jaggederest 12d agoFar from the most frustrating thing they did, trust me. I could tell you stories for days and never run out of more frustrating anecdotes.
- dpark 12d agoSometimes you don’t want everything hanging off the main domain, because if DNS gets horked everything goes down.
- jaggederest 12d agoInstead of registering foo.com, and having bob.foo.com, they would register bobfoo.com - they had hundreds or thousands of certs, as a result, and had to renew them all annually or biannually. We didn't even manage all of the domains, we just had to renew the ones our group was responsible for, and it was in the dozens, and each form was ~30-40 actions to fill out correctly. I forget whether they were quarterly or we just ended up doing it all the time, but it was a maddening task. Part of the explosion was that domains were not just in one TLD, they were bobfoo.com bobfoo.bar bobfoo.xyz and in many cases regionalized to bobfoo.co.uk or whatever. It wasn't "domain hoarding", because if you registered bobfoo.info you'd just get UDRP'd by corporate anyway, and nobody really wanted domains of the form somelongnamebobfoo.com This was also before something like LetsEncrypt where you could automatically generate certs for programmatic usage, so they were all done manually.
- ShinyLeftPad 11d ago> nobody really wanted domains of the form somelongnamebobfoo.com You'd be surprised and renewing annually is a great way to accidentally forget some of these and let someone use them to hack your customers
- lqstuart 12d agoI really wish I could be this stupid and have enough power to make such stupid policies
- jaggederest 12d agoI felt the same way at the time. Now, I believe we have better things to spend our collective time and energy on.
- collabs 13d agoShould Google be allowed to keep Google dot lol if it doesn't do anything useful with it? What about Google dot wtf? Any person with two brain cells would say these domains should belong to a fervent critic of Google, not to Google. Sadly neither our world not its legal system is built on common sense.
- bigbuppo 12d agoDomains are an infinite resource. Even a random string of characters can become valuable if the services running off that domain are valuable.
- thayne 12d agoOne reason could be to prevent phishers from getting names similar to your actual domain(s).