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I can call a coworker right now and have a real time conversation with them without feeling like I’m talking to a frustrating machine. Most of them, anyway. But
by chrsw 13d ago
I can call a coworker right now and have a real time conversation with them without feeling like I’m talking to a frustrating machine. Most of them, anyway. But I guess that’s “moving the goalposts”.
- azan_ 13d agoI can call coworker right now and have conversation so frustrating that I wish I was talking to machine instead.
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- dotancohen 13d ago[flagged]
- sheepscreek 13d agoHaha, sounds like a median human being alright!
- estetlinus 13d agoJust say “box plot” and 99.9999% of the working force gets watery eyes.
- i_am_a_peasant 13d agobro, same
- usef- 13d agoI think they're claiming it's achieved by text models, not voice models, fwiw.
- cortesoft 13d agoI feel like my odds are better with the AI than with random humans.
- ygjb 13d agoRandom humans don't have a significant cross section of human knowledge available in real-time, although many like to pretend they do, especially in internet comments :P Being able to compete with the capabilities of a median human would be an absolutely world changing achievement.
- virgilp 13d agoWhat do you mean? Virtually all humans have access to the internet. That's literally "a significant cross section of human knowledge available in real-time". Oh, the median human can't process that in realtime, you say? Looks like they can't compete with the capabilities of the frontier AI then.
- patapong 12d agoYep - I like to phrase it as "AI is better at most tasks than most people". AI will still be beat at experts at specific tasks, but in general I find it to be better than me at the areas where I have no expertise. It's the ultimate generalist.
- fragmede 13d agoI dunno, have you tried the voice chat in paid ChatGPT?
- manmal 13d agoHave you? It’s a dumb model that gets a lot wrong. Codex voice is IMO only good for when I cannot dictate into the good models. The delay introduced by letting it work with a good model kills it for me.
- truncate 13d agoReminds me of Turing test. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test
- locknitpicker 13d ago> I can call a coworker right now and have a real time conversation with them without feeling like I’m talking to a frustrating machine. These machines were designed with the express purpose of being condescendingly sycophant to the point they hallucinate just to state "you are absolutely right". No wonder some people even find these chatbots to be wife material.
- jack_pp 13d agoIn gemini I have the following personal context: - Do not stroke my ego - I never want to be complimented And it disagrees with me a lot, granted this is in the webchat which I don't use for programming but for general usage seems to work, it isn't sycophantic
- addandsubtract 12d agoI don't have those system prompts, but gemini pushes back on its own quite a bit. It'll tell me when I wrong, or when there are better options to consider. They won't be exhaustive, but good enough for 95% of my queries, so it's also my go-to web chat.
- brookst 13d agoHuh? Can you link to where condescending sycophancy and hallucination were intentional design choices?
- spilldahill 11d ago[flagged]