> I mean, there are plenty of instances if you are willing to look I am willing to look and I see exactly zero cases of widespread, organized, mail ballot voti

> I mean, there are plenty of instances if you are willing to look I am willing to look and I see exactly zero cases of widespread, organized, mail ballot voting by non-citizens of the type that Republicans say is widespread, despite lack of evidence. What I do see is low-level cases of some guy filling out two voter registration forms in an effort to win a local election and getting caught immediately, which are cases that Republican proposals would do nothing to prevent. > Hackers rather trivially were able to hack optical scan machines back in the 90s or early 2000s Curiously, this case was not in the list of fraud cases that you yourself provided. > Yes, there is a barrier of entry for freedom of speech and gun rights; it's called holding on to freedom itself, That's not what I asked. Do you have to show your ID before you are allowed to use your freedom of speech? No you don't. Rights don't have a barrier to entry: they are available to everyone. > if you aren't willing to give up something for your freedom, you probably don't deserve it. (Not saying you must necessarily give something up, just that you must be willing to give something up.) Again, that's not how rights work. The Bill of Rights doesn't say "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech ... unless the person in question gives vibes suggesting that they don't love the the US of A, go America." You can vehemently disagree with your country and still get rights, including the right to vote. > I never said the barrier for entry should be a test, like the "literacy tests" The Republican proposal under question specifically requires people to get a government issued ID that proves citizenship, while ~10% [1] of the US population lacks such ID. That sure sounds like a barrier of entry designed to exclude classes of "undesirable" people. [1] https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/213-million-american-citizens-voting-age-dont-have-ready-access https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/213-...