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Did I even tried to pretend the article wasn't generated with Claude's help? I even shared the initial prompt in some comment in this thread. I don't understan

Did I even tried to pretend the article wasn't generated with Claude's help? I even shared the initial prompt in some comment in this thread. I don't understand what is the matter with also using AI help with generating articles. I still reviewed the article and put all the ideas I wanted to discuss in that article. I don't see why people are often complaining about this. The article content is much more important than how it was generated.

dang 13d ago
I hear your frustration and it, er, prompted me to write some thoughts about the situation. The community is trending strongly against wanting to read generated writing. It's unclear how it will shake out in the long run, but for the near term, this preference is clear*. We can debate the reasons or what the correct position is, but it doesn't much matter when there's such a strong community verdict. We don't have a rule against genai in articles the way we do about text appearing on HN itself (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#generated https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#generated) but the pushback is strong enough that it's in authors' interest to write their articles themselves. Even seemingly less invasive tools like grammar checkers and translators leave strong LLM imprints on text these days. There is an emerging class distinction in the culture: generated writing, or writing that sounds like it, gets stigmatized and relegated to a lower-status bucket in readers' minds. The converse is also true: writing that isn't generated, and doesn't sound like it, gets boosted into a high-status bucket. It's easy enough to turn this to one's advantage: simply write your own writing. There are even signs that mistakes (e.g. in grammar or spelling) which would formerly have counted against an author and lowered their status, are turning into markers of authenticity. This is something we point out to non-native English speakers who post to HN: don't worry about your English, just write in your own voice, because that is the high-order bit now. (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20%22own%20voice%22&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...) I think your prompt was great, btw (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49544844 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49544844) and something most readers, including myself, would prefer to the generated output. Kudos for sharing it! We often hear readers saying they'd "rather see the prompt", but yours may be the first case I've seen of an author actually posting it. * We've been keeping an ad hoc list of these reactions to illustrate the point: https://news.ycombinator.com/genai-pushback https://news.ycombinator.com/genai-pushback

dang 13d ago

I hear your frustration and it, er, prompted me to write some thoughts about the situation. The community is trending strongly against wanting to read generated writing. It's unclear how it will shake out in the long run, but for the near term, this preference is clear*. We can debate the reasons or what the correct position is, but it doesn't much matter when there's such a strong community verdict. We don't have a rule against genai in articles the way we do about text appearing on HN itself (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#generated https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#generated) but the pushback is strong enough that it's in authors' interest to write their articles themselves. Even seemingly less invasive tools like grammar checkers and translators leave strong LLM imprints on text these days. There is an emerging class distinction in the culture: generated writing, or writing that sounds like it, gets stigmatized and relegated to a lower-status bucket in readers' minds. The converse is also true: writing that isn't generated, and doesn't sound like it, gets boosted into a high-status bucket. It's easy enough to turn this to one's advantage: simply write your own writing. There are even signs that mistakes (e.g. in grammar or spelling) which would formerly have counted against an author and lowered their status, are turning into markers of authenticity. This is something we point out to non-native English speakers who post to HN: don't worry about your English, just write in your own voice, because that is the high-order bit now. (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20%22own%20voice%22&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...) I think your prompt was great, btw (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49544844 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49544844) and something most readers, including myself, would prefer to the generated output. Kudos for sharing it! We often hear readers saying they'd "rather see the prompt", but yours may be the first case I've seen of an author actually posting it. * We've been keeping an ad hoc list of these reactions to illustrate the point: https://news.ycombinator.com/genai-pushback https://news.ycombinator.com/genai-pushback