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One can observe and accuse based on that observation. What 'sources' do you expect to see?

by Geeek 15d ago

RickJWagner 15d ago
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- throwawayqqq11 15d ago
  So you would like to see a real source of the stated/recorded democracy subversion goal of the GOP? If they didnt state it, its fake news? Until then, all the past events, from court packing, gerry-mandering to now mail-in ballots (etc pp) is just coincidence? When trump says "we only need to win once" and then conducts blantant corruption and demolishes institutions/relationships, you think this is just one more isolated coincindence? You think he will leave the white house easily and face the charges, even though his ball room isnt done? Another commenter noted, how many people seem to live in absolute disinformation bubbles, in your case, i would add "state of insane denial".
LastTrain 15d ago
He’s just demanding the same kind of rigor he demands from Trump about rigged elections. Here you go RickWagoner the Republican Governor of famously liberal Wyoming smells something fishy too: https://www.codyenterprise.com/news/local/article_7f688e37-342c-457a-8a1f-aea2a471a0e8.html https://www.codyenterprise.com/news/local/article_7f688e37-3...
- doc_ick 15d ago
  Don’t worry, rickwagoner will find a way not to believe this source. Maybe because it uses https instead of http.
- RickJWagner 15d ago
  Rigor is needed. Here’s an article talking about 6000 ineligible voters in New Jersey getting ballots. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/07/30/new-jerseys-noncitizen-voter-registration-brings-private-worries-into-the-open-01015840 https://www.politico.com/news/2026/07/30/new-jerseys-nonciti... Surely you agree this is problematic, and oversight is needed? Then extend that one step farther. It wouldn’t be fair to scrutinize only blue states like New Jersey. Red states like Wyoming should be held accountable too, right?
  - hackyhacky 15d ago
    I think it's amusing how partisan your notion of "rigor" is. Because of a run-of-the-mill software error, you want to take away election power from the states and hand it to the federal government, which at the moment is in the hands of someone who has zero credibility regarding running honest elections? Moreover, you find these 400 erroneous votes deeply problematic but you, I assume, did not ask for federal election oversight in the following cases: * Georgia improperly purged legitimate voters https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/19/georgia-governor-race-voter-suppression-brian-kemp https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/19/georgia-gove... * Tarrant County, Texas dramatically reduces polling sites in Democrat-leaning areas, despite population growth https://fortworthreport.org/2026/09/01/advocates-demand-increased-voting-access-as-tarrant-county-considers-cutting-polling-sites/ https://fortworthreport.org/2026/09/01/advocates-demand-incr... * Tennessee (among other states) gerrymanders its districts to disenfranchise minority voters https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/how-memphis-voters-feel-now-after-tennessee-split-up-its-majority-black-district https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/how-memphis-voters-fee... What I see here is a pattern of attempts to restrict voting among those opposed to the GOP. And these are the people that you trust to provide "rigor" in voting?
    - RickJWagner 15d ago
      Sure, fix those problems too. What you are showing is that problems exist. Clearly, work on election integrity is needed. Note that in New Jersey, bipartisan work is being done.
      - hackyhacky 15d ago
        > Sure, fix those problems too. They do exist. What's interesting is that those are problems created by the same people who are currently trying to disenfranchise people through the current push to takeover state elections through the postal service. So color me skeptical of their alleged "good intentions."
        RickJWagner 15d ago

One can observe and accuse based on that observation. What 'sources' do you expect to see?

by Geeek 15d ago

One can observe and accuse based on that observation. What 'sources' do you expect to see?

RickJWagner 15d ago

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throwawayqqq11 15d ago
So you would like to see a real source of the stated/recorded democracy subversion goal of the GOP? If they didnt state it, its fake news? Until then, all the past events, from court packing, gerry-mandering to now mail-in ballots (etc pp) is just coincidence? When trump says "we only need to win once" and then conducts blantant corruption and demolishes institutions/relationships, you think this is just one more isolated coincindence? You think he will leave the white house easily and face the charges, even though his ball room isnt done? Another commenter noted, how many people seem to live in absolute disinformation bubbles, in your case, i would add "state of insane denial".

LastTrain 15d ago

He’s just demanding the same kind of rigor he demands from Trump about rigged elections. Here you go RickWagoner the Republican Governor of famously liberal Wyoming smells something fishy too: https://www.codyenterprise.com/news/local/article_7f688e37-342c-457a-8a1f-aea2a471a0e8.html https://www.codyenterprise.com/news/local/article_7f688e37-3...

doc_ick 15d ago
Don’t worry, rickwagoner will find a way not to believe this source. Maybe because it uses https instead of http.
RickJWagner 15d ago
Rigor is needed. Here’s an article talking about 6000 ineligible voters in New Jersey getting ballots. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/07/30/new-jerseys-noncitizen-voter-registration-brings-private-worries-into-the-open-01015840 https://www.politico.com/news/2026/07/30/new-jerseys-nonciti... Surely you agree this is problematic, and oversight is needed? Then extend that one step farther. It wouldn’t be fair to scrutinize only blue states like New Jersey. Red states like Wyoming should be held accountable too, right?
- hackyhacky 15d ago
  I think it's amusing how partisan your notion of "rigor" is. Because of a run-of-the-mill software error, you want to take away election power from the states and hand it to the federal government, which at the moment is in the hands of someone who has zero credibility regarding running honest elections? Moreover, you find these 400 erroneous votes deeply problematic but you, I assume, did not ask for federal election oversight in the following cases: * Georgia improperly purged legitimate voters https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/19/georgia-governor-race-voter-suppression-brian-kemp https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/19/georgia-gove... * Tarrant County, Texas dramatically reduces polling sites in Democrat-leaning areas, despite population growth https://fortworthreport.org/2026/09/01/advocates-demand-increased-voting-access-as-tarrant-county-considers-cutting-polling-sites/ https://fortworthreport.org/2026/09/01/advocates-demand-incr... * Tennessee (among other states) gerrymanders its districts to disenfranchise minority voters https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/how-memphis-voters-feel-now-after-tennessee-split-up-its-majority-black-district https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/how-memphis-voters-fee... What I see here is a pattern of attempts to restrict voting among those opposed to the GOP. And these are the people that you trust to provide "rigor" in voting?
  - RickJWagner 15d ago
    Sure, fix those problems too. What you are showing is that problems exist. Clearly, work on election integrity is needed. Note that in New Jersey, bipartisan work is being done.
    - hackyhacky 15d ago
      > Sure, fix those problems too. They do exist. What's interesting is that those are problems created by the same people who are currently trying to disenfranchise people through the current push to takeover state elections through the postal service. So color me skeptical of their alleged "good intentions."
      - RickJWagner 15d ago