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The "contributor" pricing is the standout here at a ~20x discount, if you allow training on your data. The model seems on par with Sol and Opus 5 on paper (adm

The "contributor" pricing is the standout here at a ~20x discount, if you allow training on your data. The model seems on par with Sol and Opus 5 on paper (admittedly on some older/saturated benchmarks, but very competitive for $). Stats: 1M context, $0.10 input/$0.002 cached, $0.20 output (Mtok)

2001zhaozhao 14d ago
I have a feeling that Meta is not gonna like what people actually use the contributor model for lol. (It's probably going to be a bunch of repetitive batch jobs like web search that have no training value)
- dbbk 14d ago
  Web Search doesn't have a discount on contributor pricing
- winstonp 14d ago
  It's the perfect model for open-source work because it's gonna end up in the training data anyway
- hadlock 14d ago
  There's a lot of value in agentic loop tool failure + recovery training data
HDBaseT 14d ago
Not to mention, this is hyper competitive against even Chinese providers given its multi-modal support. Muse Spark 1.3 supports Text, Image, Video, File, Audio inputs. We've only started to see models from China include image and video inputs recently.
- a012 14d ago
  Muse Spark may be competitive in capabilities but it’s not for serious works since Meta trains on your prompts so no ZDR, in contrast Chinese provider like Z.AI promises ZDR which is more attractive to big corps.
  - sourcecodeplz 14d ago
    lol of all people you think the Chinese will not log your queries?
  - cheema33 14d ago
    > in contrast Chinese provider like Z.AI promises ZDR I do not trust any provider, US or Chinese when they say they will not train on my data. I still use these services, but I am under no illusion that any of these people are trustworthy bunch.
  - adrian_b 13d ago
    Another poster has pointed to a statement by Mark Zuckerberg that they will release soon Muse Spark as open weights. While I agree with you for the Muse Spark as hosted by Meta, if it will be available in open weights form for self hosting, then there are good chances that it can become quite useful.
    - iAMkenough 13d ago
      I’m not sure why I’d use theirs over the other open weights out there, or what profit motive Meta has.

2001zhaozhao 14d ago

I have a feeling that Meta is not gonna like what people actually use the contributor model for lol. (It's probably going to be a bunch of repetitive batch jobs like web search that have no training value)

dbbk 14d ago
Web Search doesn't have a discount on contributor pricing
winstonp 14d ago
It's the perfect model for open-source work because it's gonna end up in the training data anyway
hadlock 14d ago
There's a lot of value in agentic loop tool failure + recovery training data

HDBaseT 14d ago

Not to mention, this is hyper competitive against even Chinese providers given its multi-modal support. Muse Spark 1.3 supports Text, Image, Video, File, Audio inputs. We've only started to see models from China include image and video inputs recently.

a012 14d ago
Muse Spark may be competitive in capabilities but it’s not for serious works since Meta trains on your prompts so no ZDR, in contrast Chinese provider like Z.AI promises ZDR which is more attractive to big corps.
- sourcecodeplz 14d ago
  lol of all people you think the Chinese will not log your queries?
- cheema33 14d ago
  > in contrast Chinese provider like Z.AI promises ZDR I do not trust any provider, US or Chinese when they say they will not train on my data. I still use these services, but I am under no illusion that any of these people are trustworthy bunch.
- adrian_b 13d ago
  Another poster has pointed to a statement by Mark Zuckerberg that they will release soon Muse Spark as open weights. While I agree with you for the Muse Spark as hosted by Meta, if it will be available in open weights form for self hosting, then there are good chances that it can become quite useful.
  - iAMkenough 13d ago
    I’m not sure why I’d use theirs over the other open weights out there, or what profit motive Meta has.