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Wow this comes after what - 3 or 4 weeks since 3.7 Flash, which was also 3 or 4 weeks after 3.6 Flash IIRC? I eagerly wait more info but sounds like Deepmind w

Wow this comes after what - 3 or 4 weeks since 3.7 Flash, which was also 3 or 4 weeks after 3.6 Flash IIRC? I eagerly wait more info but sounds like Deepmind without Demis calling the shots has been unleashed and are operating at full speed? Shocker! At this point it is a meme of course, but where is 3.5 Pro :)

meetpateltech 14d ago
According to the WSJ, 3.5 Pro is reportedly being skipped entirely, making Gemini 4 the next flagship model after post-training. https://x.com/AndrewCurran_/status/2094937419615502370 https://x.com/AndrewCurran_/status/2094937419615502370
hiddencost 14d ago
A month is not enough time for any meaningful change in an organization the size of Deepmind/Google. These models were surely the result of work streams and teams that started under Demis. I think Demis can safely feel proud Deepmind is getting back on track.
- aurareturn 14d ago
  Reports are that he checked out of day to day work well before his reassignment. Sometimes it is hard for a scientist by nature to build and iterate and lead revenue generating products.
p_l 14d ago
Now i am awaiting Gemini 3.11 "For Workgroups" to be released early December...
- neuronic 14d ago
  With Gemini 95 following soon after.
  - cromka 14d ago
    ... and the "Gemini ME" expected to be a full AGI model.
- FartinMowler 14d ago
  Wow, that activated a long dormant neuron. IIRC 3.11 main purpose was to make the 3.1 in OS/2 incompatible.
  - p_l 13d ago
    Popular claim by IBM PR, but the issue was that OS2fW component (which reused locally-installed Windows 3.x) had binary patches it applied to windows core component to turn it from DPMI host (which owns 32bit pagetable etc.) into DPMI client so that Windows would call to OS/2 for handling paging setup, and other details of interop. The patches were made for Windows 3.1, but not for Windows 3.11 - since the changes resulted in binaries with different offsets, Windows 3.11 used under OS2fW would fail. EDIT: Source with some discussion of disassembled OS2fW code: https://jacobfilipp.com/DrDobbs/articles/DDJ/1994/9406/9406m/9406m.htm https://jacobfilipp.com/DrDobbs/articles/DDJ/1994/9406/9406m...

meetpateltech 14d ago

According to the WSJ, 3.5 Pro is reportedly being skipped entirely, making Gemini 4 the next flagship model after post-training. https://x.com/AndrewCurran_/status/2094937419615502370 https://x.com/AndrewCurran_/status/2094937419615502370

hiddencost 14d ago

A month is not enough time for any meaningful change in an organization the size of Deepmind/Google. These models were surely the result of work streams and teams that started under Demis. I think Demis can safely feel proud Deepmind is getting back on track.

aurareturn 14d ago
Reports are that he checked out of day to day work well before his reassignment. Sometimes it is hard for a scientist by nature to build and iterate and lead revenue generating products.

p_l 14d ago

Now i am awaiting Gemini 3.11 "For Workgroups" to be released early December...

neuronic 14d ago
With Gemini 95 following soon after.
- cromka 14d ago
  ... and the "Gemini ME" expected to be a full AGI model.
FartinMowler 14d ago
Wow, that activated a long dormant neuron. IIRC 3.11 main purpose was to make the 3.1 in OS/2 incompatible.
- p_l 13d ago
  Popular claim by IBM PR, but the issue was that OS2fW component (which reused locally-installed Windows 3.x) had binary patches it applied to windows core component to turn it from DPMI host (which owns 32bit pagetable etc.) into DPMI client so that Windows would call to OS/2 for handling paging setup, and other details of interop. The patches were made for Windows 3.1, but not for Windows 3.11 - since the changes resulted in binaries with different offsets, Windows 3.11 used under OS2fW would fail. EDIT: Source with some discussion of disassembled OS2fW code: https://jacobfilipp.com/DrDobbs/articles/DDJ/1994/9406/9406m/9406m.htm https://jacobfilipp.com/DrDobbs/articles/DDJ/1994/9406/9406m...