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Assuming it is AI-written, who cares? Would the article have been written if AI hadn't authored it? Did you derive less utility from the article than had it n

Assuming it is AI-written, who cares? Would the article have been written if AI hadn't authored it? Did you derive less utility from the article than had it not been written at all? Bunch of Veruca Salts here. I want ALL the entertainment/information, I want it NOW, I'll pirate it if I have to, and GOD FORBID IT USE AI.

kakacik 15d ago
While I agree that the topic is actually pretty interesting and any decent info > no info, in more general terms we pay with the most important commodity we have - our free time. So just because something is free doesn't mean people automatically flock in masses for it and have uncritical relationship with it.
- buellerbueller 15d ago
  Yes, but criticism itself takes our free time, and there are better places to allocate that criticism/free time than this particular pile-on.
  - tom_ 15d ago
    Be the change you want to see!
    - buellerbueller 15d ago
      By whingeing about an allegedly Claude-written blog post on [checks notes] carryology.com??? Literal Gandhi!
      - tom_ 15d ago
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  - cindyllm 15d ago
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tom_ 15d ago
I care. If the article was AI written, I'm massively less interested in writing it, and in fact I'll only do it if absolutely necessary, or if I'm getting paid. That's just how it is for me. If you disagree: no problem! Some people are inclined to argue with people about their opinions, but I'm not one of them, at least not on this matter.
- buellerbueller 15d ago
  Wild that the messenger is more important than the message. No wonder politics is such a shitshow these days.
  - deleted 15d ago
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  - grey-area 15d ago
    If you read the objections you’ll see they are about content (or lack of it) not the producer of the content. Perhaps you are unable to tell the difference, but for others reading this sort of ersatz thought is like a boot stamping on a human face – for ever.
  - blanched 15d ago
    Now who's being a Veruca Salt? Everyone in this thread is clearly literally talking about the message.
  - naravara 15d ago
    A slot machine that rolls sentences based on statistical weights isn’t a “messenger” and it’s output isn’t a “message.”
  - rtkwe 15d ago
    The messenger tells you a lot about the message with AI articles. It being written by AI instead of a human is an indication the writer didn't care enough about the information being communicated to communicate it themselves and if they didn't care enough to put effort into writing it and making sure it is actually good why should I spend my time reading it? It's also an early indication that the content won't be that good too so it's a convenient signal that reading it will likely be a waste of time. Just look at the article here. Lots of fluff and some completely vapid praise of some of the carry systems that put a significant load into the necks of the carrier. We know that's not good for you it's just convenient when you have low tech.
ThrustVectoring 15d ago
The intent to communicate particular ideas is actually important to the writing. If you have a lot of well put together words with relatively low intentionality behind it, what you have is something that is very effective at wasting your time. If I want to waste my time I'd rather be playing videogames.
r0han 15d ago
> Did you derive less utility from the article than had it not been written at all? At least in the economic sense of the word, utility is a measure of the subjective value that a person receives in exchange for something.
- buellerbueller 15d ago
  Indeed! And even subjectively, I find it difficult to believe that even if AI-written, the new information learned has negative marginal utility (or less marginal utility than had it been human-written). That is in fact the basis of the point I am making, though it is implied rather than stated.
asciimov 15d ago
For me it’s about human connection. I want to know the thoughts of others somewhere else to learn or share in their experiences.
bigstrat2003 14d ago
> Assuming it is AI-written, who cares? I care. I'm interested in what humans have to say, not the slop produced by a clanker. > Did you derive less utility from the article than had it not been written at all? Unironically yes. When I read an article and realize it's slop partway through, not only have I wasted my time but I experience the annoyance of having wasted my time. It would be better for me if such articles did not exist at all.

kakacik 15d ago

While I agree that the topic is actually pretty interesting and any decent info > no info, in more general terms we pay with the most important commodity we have - our free time. So just because something is free doesn't mean people automatically flock in masses for it and have uncritical relationship with it.

buellerbueller 15d ago
Yes, but criticism itself takes our free time, and there are better places to allocate that criticism/free time than this particular pile-on.
- tom_ 15d ago
  Be the change you want to see!
  - buellerbueller 15d ago
    By whingeing about an allegedly Claude-written blog post on [checks notes] carryology.com??? Literal Gandhi!
    - tom_ 15d ago
      [dead]
- cindyllm 15d ago
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tom_ 15d ago

I care. If the article was AI written, I'm massively less interested in writing it, and in fact I'll only do it if absolutely necessary, or if I'm getting paid. That's just how it is for me. If you disagree: no problem! Some people are inclined to argue with people about their opinions, but I'm not one of them, at least not on this matter.

buellerbueller 15d ago
Wild that the messenger is more important than the message. No wonder politics is such a shitshow these days.
- deleted 15d ago
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- grey-area 15d ago
  If you read the objections you’ll see they are about content (or lack of it) not the producer of the content. Perhaps you are unable to tell the difference, but for others reading this sort of ersatz thought is like a boot stamping on a human face – for ever.
- blanched 15d ago
  Now who's being a Veruca Salt? Everyone in this thread is clearly literally talking about the message.
- naravara 15d ago
  A slot machine that rolls sentences based on statistical weights isn’t a “messenger” and it’s output isn’t a “message.”
- rtkwe 15d ago
  The messenger tells you a lot about the message with AI articles. It being written by AI instead of a human is an indication the writer didn't care enough about the information being communicated to communicate it themselves and if they didn't care enough to put effort into writing it and making sure it is actually good why should I spend my time reading it? It's also an early indication that the content won't be that good too so it's a convenient signal that reading it will likely be a waste of time. Just look at the article here. Lots of fluff and some completely vapid praise of some of the carry systems that put a significant load into the necks of the carrier. We know that's not good for you it's just convenient when you have low tech.

ThrustVectoring 15d ago

The intent to communicate particular ideas is actually important to the writing. If you have a lot of well put together words with relatively low intentionality behind it, what you have is something that is very effective at wasting your time. If I want to waste my time I'd rather be playing videogames.

r0han 15d ago

> Did you derive less utility from the article than had it not been written at all? At least in the economic sense of the word, utility is a measure of the subjective value that a person receives in exchange for something.

buellerbueller 15d ago
Indeed! And even subjectively, I find it difficult to believe that even if AI-written, the new information learned has negative marginal utility (or less marginal utility than had it been human-written). That is in fact the basis of the point I am making, though it is implied rather than stated.

asciimov 15d ago

For me it’s about human connection. I want to know the thoughts of others somewhere else to learn or share in their experiences.

bigstrat2003 14d ago

> Assuming it is AI-written, who cares? I care. I'm interested in what humans have to say, not the slop produced by a clanker. > Did you derive less utility from the article than had it not been written at all? Unironically yes. When I read an article and realize it's slop partway through, not only have I wasted my time but I experience the annoyance of having wasted my time. It would be better for me if such articles did not exist at all.