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As far as I'm aware, aside from toy prototypes, all software is still built by humans coding, albeit with better auto-complete.

by tensor 15d ago

aka-rider 15d ago
It is all very unevenly distributed. SaaS and general web is basically on auto mode. A lot of infra is vibe coded nowadays too. Even prototypes are contributing to the speed of software development. Many people vibe code throwaway dashboards around the main platform which gives a lot of insights.
- 3ddds 15d ago
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nl 15d ago
This seems to be more a problem of your awareness than a lack of projects. Apart from every software engineer I know building almost completely with AI now there have been numerous projects posted on HN that are AI coded. There's also Claude desktop which is famously all AI built and very widely used.
- 3ddds 15d ago
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- paodealho 15d ago
  Have you ever considered: - that you don't know most people in the world - that some of the people you know are using these tools because they were forced ?
  - nl 15d ago
    > that you don't know most people in the world Of course. To be clear, the claim was "all software is still built by humans coding" I know this all software claim is false because I've seen it. Proof by example. > that some of the people you know are using these tools because they were forced Irrelevant to that claim.
    - tensor 15d ago
      To be clear the claim was that excluding prototypes all software is still coded by humans with AI assistance. Even the creator of Claude code agrees with the sentiment that you can’t vibe code production software. [1] 1 https://www.businessinsider.com/claude-code-creator-vibe-coding-limits-boris-cherny-anthropic-2025-12#:~:text=The%20engineer%20behind,for%20maintainable%20software. https://www.businessinsider.com/claude-code-creator-vibe-cod...
      - nl 15d ago
        Something Cherny said in early December last year is clearly not relevant anymore. By late December he said: "100% of my contributions to Claude Code were written by Claude Code"[1]. That's production software shipping to millions of people. Antirez's Dwarfstar is also mostly AI written: > This software is developed with strong assistance from GPT 5.5, 5.6, Claude Fable and with humans leading the ideas, testing, and debugging. We say this openly because it shaped how the project was built. If you are not happy with AI-developed code, this software is not for you. [2] I'm actually pretty shocked anyone would claim otherwise. In January 2026, sure, but the world has changed since then. Many, many places are doing 100% AI code now, and yes for production code. https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-writing-all-startup-code-thats-creating-a-new-problem-2026-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-writing-all-startup-code-... [1] https://x.com/bcherny/status/2004897269674639461 https://x.com/bcherny/status/2004897269674639461 [2] https://github.com/antirez/ds4 https://github.com/antirez/ds4
        tensor 14d ago
        Testing and debugging and designing is a huge part of writing software. If humans are doing that it's not AI entirely writing the software. That's why they in their own words said "strong assistance."
        nl 14d ago
        Writing all the code is quite a long way from (your words) "better autocomplete"!
- tensor 15d ago
  > now there have been numerous projects posted on HN that are AI coded. Yes, all of which are toy projects and get criticized every time they are posted. On actual serious projects, not someones pet home project, I've only seen "vibe coding" used in very low risk places like small UI components. And even then they are generally heavily tweaked after the fact. My anecdotal personal experience seem to agree with the general sentiment I see here on HN. Some people or companies do it, but with generally heavy criticism.

As far as I'm aware, aside from toy prototypes, all software is still built by humans coding, albeit with better auto-complete.

by tensor 15d ago

As far as I'm aware, aside from toy prototypes, all software is still built by humans coding, albeit with better auto-complete.

aka-rider 15d ago

It is all very unevenly distributed. SaaS and general web is basically on auto mode. A lot of infra is vibe coded nowadays too. Even prototypes are contributing to the speed of software development. Many people vibe code throwaway dashboards around the main platform which gives a lot of insights.

3ddds 15d ago
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nl 15d ago

This seems to be more a problem of your awareness than a lack of projects. Apart from every software engineer I know building almost completely with AI now there have been numerous projects posted on HN that are AI coded. There's also Claude desktop which is famously all AI built and very widely used.

3ddds 15d ago
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paodealho 15d ago
Have you ever considered: - that you don't know most people in the world - that some of the people you know are using these tools because they were forced ?
- nl 15d ago
  > that you don't know most people in the world Of course. To be clear, the claim was "all software is still built by humans coding" I know this all software claim is false because I've seen it. Proof by example. > that some of the people you know are using these tools because they were forced Irrelevant to that claim.
  - tensor 15d ago
    To be clear the claim was that excluding prototypes all software is still coded by humans with AI assistance. Even the creator of Claude code agrees with the sentiment that you can’t vibe code production software. [1] 1 https://www.businessinsider.com/claude-code-creator-vibe-coding-limits-boris-cherny-anthropic-2025-12#:~:text=The%20engineer%20behind,for%20maintainable%20software. https://www.businessinsider.com/claude-code-creator-vibe-cod...
    - nl 15d ago
      Something Cherny said in early December last year is clearly not relevant anymore. By late December he said: "100% of my contributions to Claude Code were written by Claude Code"[1]. That's production software shipping to millions of people. Antirez's Dwarfstar is also mostly AI written: > This software is developed with strong assistance from GPT 5.5, 5.6, Claude Fable and with humans leading the ideas, testing, and debugging. We say this openly because it shaped how the project was built. If you are not happy with AI-developed code, this software is not for you. [2] I'm actually pretty shocked anyone would claim otherwise. In January 2026, sure, but the world has changed since then. Many, many places are doing 100% AI code now, and yes for production code. https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-writing-all-startup-code-thats-creating-a-new-problem-2026-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-writing-all-startup-code-... [1] https://x.com/bcherny/status/2004897269674639461 https://x.com/bcherny/status/2004897269674639461 [2] https://github.com/antirez/ds4 https://github.com/antirez/ds4
      - tensor 14d ago
        Testing and debugging and designing is a huge part of writing software. If humans are doing that it's not AI entirely writing the software. That's why they in their own words said "strong assistance."
        nl 14d ago
        Writing all the code is quite a long way from (your words) "better autocomplete"!
tensor 15d ago
> now there have been numerous projects posted on HN that are AI coded. Yes, all of which are toy projects and get criticized every time they are posted. On actual serious projects, not someones pet home project, I've only seen "vibe coding" used in very low risk places like small UI components. And even then they are generally heavily tweaked after the fact. My anecdotal personal experience seem to agree with the general sentiment I see here on HN. Some people or companies do it, but with generally heavy criticism.