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Are we living in the same universe? Musk and Altman are glossed over and not criticized?

toomuchtodo 16d ago
HN has a fairly complex user footprint, it's not everyone of course and I do not mean to paint too broadly, but there is a strong contingent of those pro in a cluster. https://hackernewstrends.com/?q=Musk&q=Altman&from=1512345600000&to=1514937600000 https://hackernewstrends.com/?q=Musk&q=Altman&from=151234560...
- rowanG077 16d ago
  I don't see any sentiment in that data.
  - toomuchtodo 16d ago
    Would you like a list of pro Musk and Altman users based on their comment and submission history? I'm unsure if that violates the site guidelines, and I prefer not to have my subthreads detached or stern reprimands by mods (it makes me feel bothersome in a host's home). Profiling Hacker News users based on their comments - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47473086 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47473086 - March 2026 (86 comments) (simonw's work I cribbed off of)
    - rowanG077 16d ago
      I certainly believe there are some Musk and Altman glazers on this site. There are also certainly Ed Zitron glazers. The point is not a few users you can point out, it wouldn't prove anything. The point is that you claimed that Musk and Altman are "Pathological liars like Musk and Altman are glossed over". I would say that requires at least sentiment analysis that an extremely high percentage(90+%) of hackernews users match that description. And that is simply not what I observe when I use this site. My feeling is that sentiment for Musk and Altman are neutral at best.
      - toomuchtodo 16d ago
        I will return with data.
GolfPopper 16d ago
Criticized as being poor human beings, or as being poor executives? Because the former, as P.T. Barnum pointed out, is just free advertising. And I see far more of that than the latter. Now, if and when their various empires collapse there will be no shortage of people pointing back and saying "all the signs were there", but in my everyday life (obviously just a single point of anecdata), it feels like I see a lot more coverage of them as "bad people" than as "bad at what they claim to be experts on".

HN has a fairly complex user footprint, it's not everyone of course and I do not mean to paint too broadly, but there is a strong contingent of those pro in a cluster. https://hackernewstrends.com/?q=Musk&q=Altman&from=1512345600000&to=1514937600000 https://hackernewstrends.com/?q=Musk&q=Altman&from=151234560...

rowanG077 16d ago
I don't see any sentiment in that data.
- toomuchtodo 16d ago
  Would you like a list of pro Musk and Altman users based on their comment and submission history? I'm unsure if that violates the site guidelines, and I prefer not to have my subthreads detached or stern reprimands by mods (it makes me feel bothersome in a host's home). Profiling Hacker News users based on their comments - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47473086 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47473086 - March 2026 (86 comments) (simonw's work I cribbed off of)
  - rowanG077 16d ago
    I certainly believe there are some Musk and Altman glazers on this site. There are also certainly Ed Zitron glazers. The point is not a few users you can point out, it wouldn't prove anything. The point is that you claimed that Musk and Altman are "Pathological liars like Musk and Altman are glossed over". I would say that requires at least sentiment analysis that an extremely high percentage(90+%) of hackernews users match that description. And that is simply not what I observe when I use this site. My feeling is that sentiment for Musk and Altman are neutral at best.
    - toomuchtodo 16d ago
      I will return with data.

GolfPopper 16d ago

Criticized as being poor human beings, or as being poor executives? Because the former, as P.T. Barnum pointed out, is just free advertising. And I see far more of that than the latter. Now, if and when their various empires collapse there will be no shortage of people pointing back and saying "all the signs were there", but in my everyday life (obviously just a single point of anecdata), it feels like I see a lot more coverage of them as "bad people" than as "bad at what they claim to be experts on".