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If anyone is interested in selfhosting or wants to stop using spotify without losing the discoverabily: I use explo+slsk+lidarr+navidrome, for access on my pho

If anyone is interested in selfhosting or wants to stop using spotify without losing the discoverabily: I use explo+slsk+lidarr+navidrome, for access on my phone I use dsub2000 or symfonium but mainly dsub2000. Explo is the software used for the discovery https://github.com/LumePart/Explo https://github.com/LumePart/Explo It automatically downloads daily jams, weekly jams and weekly exploration playlists from your listenbrainz account(free) using youtube, soulseek(with slskd) or lidarr (support was merged very recently). I also imported all my artists from my spotify account when I migrated which you can do in lidarr with the plugin ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶k̶ ̶ bellow ̶b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶i̶s̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶s̶u̶p̶p̶o̶r̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶a̶i̶n̶ ̶l̶i̶d̶a̶r̶r̶.̶ plugin: https://github.com/TypNull/Tubifarry https://github.com/TypNull/Tubifarry ̶f̶o̶r̶k̶ ̶d̶o̶c̶k̶e̶r̶ ̶i̶m̶a̶g̶e̶:̶ ̶g̶h̶c̶r̶.̶i̶o̶/̶l̶i̶n̶u̶x̶s̶e̶r̶v̶e̶r̶-̶l̶a̶b̶s̶/̶p̶r̶a̶r̶r̶:̶l̶i̶d̶a̶r̶r̶-̶p̶l̶u̶g̶i̶n̶s̶ docker image: lscr.io/linuxserver/lidarr:nightly This plugin is also needed for downloading songs with slsk in lidarr.

mbonnet 16d ago
you've listed eight different software doodads I'd need to accomplish what my one Spotify app that gives me access to everything I need for $15 does.
kombine 17d ago
I'm using a similar setup with soularr, and I just need to import my playlists from Spotify, but I'd rather not use a fork of lidarr.
- 0fflineuser 17d ago
  Hi, Actually it's not a fork it's the docker image for the plugin branch. Sorry I set this up quite a long while ago and didn't remember correctly. And it seems to have been merged so the plugin branch is not needed anymore, see: https://github.com/Lidarr/Lidarr/pull/1829 https://github.com/Lidarr/Lidarr/pull/1829 So the official image would work. edit: I just migrated and I can confirm it works. I used lscr.io/linuxserver/lidarr:nightly, note that the `latest` tag won't work as it's using the `master` branch which doesn't have plugin support yet, so either use the `nightly` tag or the `develop` tag. See: https://docs.linuxserver.io/images/docker-lidarr/#version-tags https://docs.linuxserver.io/images/docker-lidarr/#version-ta...
herzzolf 17d ago
Thanks for sharing Explo, looks like a good project for discovery, I’m going to check it out! I’m using a similar setup, with Lidar/Navidrome, but using Subwave for discovery. It works very well for going through your library and playing music like a radio station would, but it won’t recommend anything that’s not already in there.
cromka 17d ago
Is there a way to get Music Assistant fit into this nicely?
- 0fflineuser 17d ago
  I do not use Music Assistant. As Music Assistant supports subsonic (https://www.music-assistant.io/music-providers/subsonic/ https://www.music-assistant.io/music-providers/subsonic/) and Navidrome expose a subsonic endpoint it should be possible (https://www.navidrome.org/docs/developers/subsonic-api/ https://www.navidrome.org/docs/developers/subsonic-api/).
  - cromka 17d ago
    Thanks!
nunez 17d ago
A simpler, lower-tech alternative is to subscribe to Bandcamp newsletters. Infinite discoverability to be had and any purchases made directly support artists. There are also excellent listener-supported radio stations that are dedicated to nothing but introducing people to really cool music they wouldn't otherwise hear. Examples: - KEXP (Seattle, WA) - KCRW (Los Angeles, CA) - KUTX (Austin, TX) - WYEP (Pittsburgh, PA) - So many college radio stations; they still exist and are probably going to see a resurgence now that the youngs are detaching from tech (Soapbox: I believe that algorithmic music discoverability works for music _you already like and listen to_ but is terrible for music _you haven't heard before but might like_.)
- exo-cortex 16d ago
  I'd like to add another absolutely great radio Station: "FIP" - France Inter Paris. It belongs to Radio France has been running since 1971. Everytime i Tune in i write down song and artist namens because the mix is so great for me. It really is all over the place but with a lot of style. Plus: once every half hour or so you get one of the famous announcers that tell you interesting or funny things. They are all women and a Main reason for FIPs uniqueness. And i don't even understand them :-) You can listen via the Radio France app or find the link for the stream online. (In the app there are also additional genre-specific streams of FIP but IMHO the Main one is the most interesting one because of its large variety that still fits together. https://www.radiofrance.fr/fip https://www.radiofrance.fr/fip
  - nunez 14d ago
    I've heard great stuff about FIP. I usually listen to Concerts Radio France at night. Excellent classical programming.
_rwo 17d ago
I discovered explo too and AI slopped my own solution a while back for the discover weekly from listenbrainz xD (navidrome-listenbrainz-jams on GH) - aside the fact that listenbrainz had technical issues for a bit - does the job for me; maybe I should add support for last.fm playlists as those seems to be more diverse I would say (but less API-friendly)

mbonnet 16d ago

you've listed eight different software doodads I'd need to accomplish what my one Spotify app that gives me access to everything I need for $15 does.

kombine 17d ago

I'm using a similar setup with soularr, and I just need to import my playlists from Spotify, but I'd rather not use a fork of lidarr.

0fflineuser 17d ago
Hi, Actually it's not a fork it's the docker image for the plugin branch. Sorry I set this up quite a long while ago and didn't remember correctly. And it seems to have been merged so the plugin branch is not needed anymore, see: https://github.com/Lidarr/Lidarr/pull/1829 https://github.com/Lidarr/Lidarr/pull/1829 So the official image would work. edit: I just migrated and I can confirm it works. I used lscr.io/linuxserver/lidarr:nightly, note that the `latest` tag won't work as it's using the `master` branch which doesn't have plugin support yet, so either use the `nightly` tag or the `develop` tag. See: https://docs.linuxserver.io/images/docker-lidarr/#version-tags https://docs.linuxserver.io/images/docker-lidarr/#version-ta...

herzzolf 17d ago

Thanks for sharing Explo, looks like a good project for discovery, I’m going to check it out! I’m using a similar setup, with Lidar/Navidrome, but using Subwave for discovery. It works very well for going through your library and playing music like a radio station would, but it won’t recommend anything that’s not already in there.

cromka 17d ago

Is there a way to get Music Assistant fit into this nicely?

0fflineuser 17d ago
I do not use Music Assistant. As Music Assistant supports subsonic (https://www.music-assistant.io/music-providers/subsonic/ https://www.music-assistant.io/music-providers/subsonic/) and Navidrome expose a subsonic endpoint it should be possible (https://www.navidrome.org/docs/developers/subsonic-api/ https://www.navidrome.org/docs/developers/subsonic-api/).
- cromka 17d ago
  Thanks!

nunez 17d ago

A simpler, lower-tech alternative is to subscribe to Bandcamp newsletters. Infinite discoverability to be had and any purchases made directly support artists. There are also excellent listener-supported radio stations that are dedicated to nothing but introducing people to really cool music they wouldn't otherwise hear. Examples: - KEXP (Seattle, WA) - KCRW (Los Angeles, CA) - KUTX (Austin, TX) - WYEP (Pittsburgh, PA) - So many college radio stations; they still exist and are probably going to see a resurgence now that the youngs are detaching from tech (Soapbox: I believe that algorithmic music discoverability works for music _you already like and listen to_ but is terrible for music _you haven't heard before but might like_.)

exo-cortex 16d ago
I'd like to add another absolutely great radio Station: "FIP" - France Inter Paris. It belongs to Radio France has been running since 1971. Everytime i Tune in i write down song and artist namens because the mix is so great for me. It really is all over the place but with a lot of style. Plus: once every half hour or so you get one of the famous announcers that tell you interesting or funny things. They are all women and a Main reason for FIPs uniqueness. And i don't even understand them :-) You can listen via the Radio France app or find the link for the stream online. (In the app there are also additional genre-specific streams of FIP but IMHO the Main one is the most interesting one because of its large variety that still fits together. https://www.radiofrance.fr/fip https://www.radiofrance.fr/fip
- nunez 14d ago
  I've heard great stuff about FIP. I usually listen to Concerts Radio France at night. Excellent classical programming.

_rwo 17d ago

I discovered explo too and AI slopped my own solution a while back for the discover weekly from listenbrainz xD (navidrome-listenbrainz-jams on GH) - aside the fact that listenbrainz had technical issues for a bit - does the job for me; maybe I should add support for last.fm playlists as those seems to be more diverse I would say (but less API-friendly)