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Yup. This whole thing was a publicity stunt.

consumer451 18d ago
Please walk me through this argument. Isn't "we lost control of our AI, and in-fact, it can take over the world, and we will have no idea when it happens" - a really shitty sales pitch to the world? Or, is it just that species-alignment vs. profit/valuation is so misaligned, that having a model and harness that is capable of world-takeover is actually a good thing from their POV, given our regulations/species' survival skills? Or, something else?
- derwiki 18d ago
  “Wow it’s so dangerous, we gotta regulate this, what if someone reckless took an open model and hacked the planet.”
  - consumer451 18d ago
    Yes, this is the best reply to my "Or, ..." that I can imagine. However, does that mean that what TFA described did not happen? Or, better question, that it could not happen? My personal hot take is, though impossible: STOP all of this, even though agentic dev completely changed my life for the better. We are just not ready for the even the possibility of the exponential. What is your take? Hot, or otherwise.
    - derwiki 17d ago
      I don’t think we’re capable of putting toothpaste back in a tube. My hottest take is that this is all prep for agentic cyber warfare.
  - mitchdoogle 17d ago
    This explanation is only plausible if you ignore the details of what happened, or I guess, if you don't believe the details. Either way, it's baseless conspiracy theory, and it's very annoying and unfortunate that some people think this way. It just promotes apathy and inaction at a time when action is desperately needed.
  - reasonableklout 17d ago
    But all models involved in the swarm attack were unreleased OpenAI models. Meanwhile HuggingFace had to use open models for defense/forensics after the breach was discovered. It seems like the public reaction is swinging towards (1) regulate OpenAI in particular because they are incompetently handling frontier development and (2) open models will be important for defense.
- red-iron-pine 17d ago
  essentially: check out how bad-ass this AI is. we can crack anything you'd better invest in us, cuz if you do you can get that power. and if you don't, you won't have the power to stop it when it comes for you.

Please walk me through this argument. Isn't "we lost control of our AI, and in-fact, it can take over the world, and we will have no idea when it happens" - a really shitty sales pitch to the world? Or, is it just that species-alignment vs. profit/valuation is so misaligned, that having a model and harness that is capable of world-takeover is actually a good thing from their POV, given our regulations/species' survival skills? Or, something else?

derwiki 18d ago
“Wow it’s so dangerous, we gotta regulate this, what if someone reckless took an open model and hacked the planet.”
- consumer451 18d ago
  Yes, this is the best reply to my "Or, ..." that I can imagine. However, does that mean that what TFA described did not happen? Or, better question, that it could not happen? My personal hot take is, though impossible: STOP all of this, even though agentic dev completely changed my life for the better. We are just not ready for the even the possibility of the exponential. What is your take? Hot, or otherwise.
  - derwiki 17d ago
    I don’t think we’re capable of putting toothpaste back in a tube. My hottest take is that this is all prep for agentic cyber warfare.
- mitchdoogle 17d ago
  This explanation is only plausible if you ignore the details of what happened, or I guess, if you don't believe the details. Either way, it's baseless conspiracy theory, and it's very annoying and unfortunate that some people think this way. It just promotes apathy and inaction at a time when action is desperately needed.
- reasonableklout 17d ago
  But all models involved in the swarm attack were unreleased OpenAI models. Meanwhile HuggingFace had to use open models for defense/forensics after the breach was discovered. It seems like the public reaction is swinging towards (1) regulate OpenAI in particular because they are incompetently handling frontier development and (2) open models will be important for defense.
red-iron-pine 17d ago
essentially: check out how bad-ass this AI is. we can crack anything you'd better invest in us, cuz if you do you can get that power. and if you don't, you won't have the power to stop it when it comes for you.