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>dont do Capitalism like the rest of the AI field Like lobbying the US president to harm their competitors?

by tokai 18d ago

realo 18d ago
I would suggest "lobbying" is not the correct word to describe all the corruption going on in the current USA administration cesspool.
- noir_lord 18d ago
  lobbying/legalised bribery hard to say where one ends and another begins at times.
- CamperBob2 18d ago
  Well, it sure as hell isn't capitalism.
  - blackqueeriroh 18d ago
    Lmao that’s exactly capitalism
    - andrekandre 18d ago
      i mean, theres capitalism as the ideal, and there is capitalism in practice, so maybe you are both right...
    - CamperBob2 18d ago
      Where in the Wealth of Nations does a Trump appear?
    - realo 17d ago
      Oh. Administration corrupted up to it's very core? Check. Nihilism of anyone not part of the proper color, gender, whatever agenda? Check. Unlawful surveillance? Check. Sending totally innocent citizens to prison with many of them dying mysteriously? Check. Killing innocent people in the streets simply because they dare protest peacefully? Check. Welcome to North Korea! Oups. Confused. Welcome to the GREAT US of A! Where True Capitalism is practiced.
      - CamperBob2 17d ago
        You need to go back to school and demand a refund if you think any of that is "true capitalism." Better yet, just go back to Reddit.
        bigyabai 17d ago
        It's kinda funny to hear these protests. In a "true fascist" society, you wouldn't be surprised to see someone killed in the name of political power. But in a "true capitalist" society, you're shocked that money triumphs over virtue? It's not a "virtuist" society, is it? Authoritarian capitalists exist. Larry Ellison, Alex Karp, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg - they love when you think that capitalism plays by written rules. It helps them use your tax dollars to pay for their surveillance services. It helps them sell you B2C products that degrade the moral fabric of America, and rewrite legislation through online influence campaigns. You can say it "isn't capitalism" because you don't agree with it politically, but the accrual of capital is precisely how all 4 of those men became powerful. Their influence on social media is why they're able to reframe the national discussion how they want. Their money is what lets them turn political willpower into a business, or a rubber chicken into a politician. After all, what is Reddit or 4chan if not one big capitalist influence campaign? Do you really think product reviews and political ragebait is driven by some natural and benevolent social force that we can't see or feel?

>dont do Capitalism like the rest of the AI field Like lobbying the US president to harm their competitors?

by tokai 18d ago

>dont do Capitalism like the rest of the AI field Like lobbying the US president to harm their competitors?

realo 18d ago

I would suggest "lobbying" is not the correct word to describe all the corruption going on in the current USA administration cesspool.

noir_lord 18d ago
lobbying/legalised bribery hard to say where one ends and another begins at times.
CamperBob2 18d ago
Well, it sure as hell isn't capitalism.
- blackqueeriroh 18d ago
  Lmao that’s exactly capitalism
  - andrekandre 18d ago
    i mean, theres capitalism as the ideal, and there is capitalism in practice, so maybe you are both right...
  - CamperBob2 18d ago
    Where in the Wealth of Nations does a Trump appear?
  - realo 17d ago
    Oh. Administration corrupted up to it's very core? Check. Nihilism of anyone not part of the proper color, gender, whatever agenda? Check. Unlawful surveillance? Check. Sending totally innocent citizens to prison with many of them dying mysteriously? Check. Killing innocent people in the streets simply because they dare protest peacefully? Check. Welcome to North Korea! Oups. Confused. Welcome to the GREAT US of A! Where True Capitalism is practiced.
    - CamperBob2 17d ago
      You need to go back to school and demand a refund if you think any of that is "true capitalism." Better yet, just go back to Reddit.
      - bigyabai 17d ago
        It's kinda funny to hear these protests. In a "true fascist" society, you wouldn't be surprised to see someone killed in the name of political power. But in a "true capitalist" society, you're shocked that money triumphs over virtue? It's not a "virtuist" society, is it? Authoritarian capitalists exist. Larry Ellison, Alex Karp, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg - they love when you think that capitalism plays by written rules. It helps them use your tax dollars to pay for their surveillance services. It helps them sell you B2C products that degrade the moral fabric of America, and rewrite legislation through online influence campaigns. You can say it "isn't capitalism" because you don't agree with it politically, but the accrual of capital is precisely how all 4 of those men became powerful. Their influence on social media is why they're able to reframe the national discussion how they want. Their money is what lets them turn political willpower into a business, or a rubber chicken into a politician. After all, what is Reddit or 4chan if not one big capitalist influence campaign? Do you really think product reviews and political ragebait is driven by some natural and benevolent social force that we can't see or feel?