4 ms·
The US keeps talking about leaving.
by badc0ffee 18d ago
The US keeps talking about leaving.
- petra 18d agoI hope that Trump doesn't represent US policies in the long term.
- rocqua 18d agoTrumps short term actions will have long term consequences on the alliance. Specifically on how the alliance views reliance on the US. Trump has shown how unreliable an ally the US can be. Putting that cat bag in the bag doesn’t reverse the realisation that there’s a cat in that bag. This will likely strengthen NATO in the long term. But only if it doesn’t get tested by Russia in the short term.
- petra 18d agoIt's probably for the better over the long term, I Agree. We might be getting into complicated times, with AI and robotics, so it's much better if Europe would be more self-sufficient, militarily, technologicaly and economicaly.
- Sammi 18d agoThere are approximately 874 days left in Donald Trump's presidential term as of August 29, 2026. That's if the bugger leaves office and doesn't start an insurrection like last time, and that the insurrection doesn't work like last time. Depends a lot on how much Americans actually want him gone, but alas you Americans seem to keep voting for him no matter how many corruption scandals he's in.
- sudokatsu 18d agoI think the majority of “you Americans” that you’re talking about aren’t on HN. The Americans actually on this platform probably have the same concerns you do.
- Sammi 18d agoAny time I try to engage with any American on Trump it's always the same "it wasn't me" spiel. Is anyone over there taking responsibility?
- vjvjvjvjghv 18d agoI hope this finally motivates the Europeans to step up their game long-term. They should be able to defend themselves without the US and also develop and produce their weapons within Europe. NATO will be better if it's an alliance of equal partners.