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"Another problem is border fascism. Europe has open borders internally, but very closed borders externally. The external borders are being militarized and incre

"Another problem is border fascism. Europe has open borders internally, but very closed borders externally. The external borders are being militarized and increasingly hostile towards immigrants and asylum seekers. European politicians are showing increasingly fascistic behavior towards the borders. It is bad, and inhumane, and it is braking Europe apart." What planet are you living on? Border fascism? What? 70,000 'migrants' crossed into Cueta a short while back and the place is in turmoil now. "European politicians are showing increasingly fascistic behavior towards the borders" Where do people like you come from? I'm always interested in this utterly surreal take on enforcing the border of your own country, like that's now fascist. What's going on here? There's not many positions that leave me utterly perplexed. I'm sincerely asking, how you hold your position on this? What have you experienced in life to end up with these opinions? What benefit is flooding Europe with literally anyone from all the backward cultured shit holes from around the world?

runarberg 19d ago
What I have experienced is being in an international relationship and having to have to go through the (legal) immigration process twice. First by my married spouse immigrating to Iceland, and then again by me, and Icelandic citizen moving to the USA. What I have heard are people being deported from Europe, immigrants unable to move to the place they want to seek better life, asylum seekers sent back to the dangerous situations they were fleeing, or worse to third countries they have no relations with, exile being used as punishment against some criminals based on their country of origin, etc. etc. Europe is increasingly becoming a surveillance hellhole, personal rights are being stripped away, privacy is being abolished under the guise of “protecting our borders”. This is border fascism, and Europe is better off without it. Immigrants, no matter how many millions, can never cause the same harm to a fellow working European as a politician who stripes away your human rights.
- GlacierFox 17d ago
  "Immigrants, no matter how many millions, can never cause the same harm to a fellow working European as a politician who stripes away your human rights." See this is the point where you're so out of touch with reality it's truely perplexing. Both things are horrifically damaging to a country and it's residents. Thanks for outlining the things you've 'heard'. I see my country tearing itself apart at the seams and there's people like you say there with a shrug of the shoulders telling us we're all fascists.
  - runarberg 16d ago
    Immigrants are not bad for your country, and claiming they are is racist. If your country is bad it is because of the people in charge (i.e. the rich and the powerful; i.e. politicians and billionaires). If your job sucks, you blame your boss, not your most recent hires. And if you don‘t get paid enough, you blame your shareholders, not your customers.

runarberg 19d ago

What I have experienced is being in an international relationship and having to have to go through the (legal) immigration process twice. First by my married spouse immigrating to Iceland, and then again by me, and Icelandic citizen moving to the USA. What I have heard are people being deported from Europe, immigrants unable to move to the place they want to seek better life, asylum seekers sent back to the dangerous situations they were fleeing, or worse to third countries they have no relations with, exile being used as punishment against some criminals based on their country of origin, etc. etc. Europe is increasingly becoming a surveillance hellhole, personal rights are being stripped away, privacy is being abolished under the guise of “protecting our borders”. This is border fascism, and Europe is better off without it. Immigrants, no matter how many millions, can never cause the same harm to a fellow working European as a politician who stripes away your human rights.

GlacierFox 17d ago
"Immigrants, no matter how many millions, can never cause the same harm to a fellow working European as a politician who stripes away your human rights." See this is the point where you're so out of touch with reality it's truely perplexing. Both things are horrifically damaging to a country and it's residents. Thanks for outlining the things you've 'heard'. I see my country tearing itself apart at the seams and there's people like you say there with a shrug of the shoulders telling us we're all fascists.
- runarberg 16d ago
  Immigrants are not bad for your country, and claiming they are is racist. If your country is bad it is because of the people in charge (i.e. the rich and the powerful; i.e. politicians and billionaires). If your job sucks, you blame your boss, not your most recent hires. And if you don‘t get paid enough, you blame your shareholders, not your customers.