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Wht do you mean by some surely it is all who think he is non English, The Angles – ancestors of the English were the people whom he was fighting against. Now
by pasc1878 19d ago
Wht do you mean by some surely it is all who think he is non English,
The Angles – ancestors of the English were the people whom he was fighting against.
Now was Arthur Roman or Celtic or Welsh etc is up to debate.
- thaumasiotes 19d agoWell, no, the mythology has him fighting against all kinds of people, notably including the Saracens. The more typical question would be "is Arthur based on any historical events at all?"
- pasc1878 19d agoSorry never seen that - where does it say he fought Saracens.
- QuesnayJr 19d agoMallory's Morte d'Arthur. Most of the Arthur "myth" is deliberately constructed fiction by specific authors, rather than folk myths.
- bryanrasmussen 19d agoI'd put Le Morte D'Arthur as the first modernization of the myths, not another myth.
- jhbadger 18d agoYeah. There is a difference between something like Geoffrey's "De gestis Britonum" which was thought by the author to be sort of true, and Malory who knew he was writing literature.
- QuesnayJr 18d agoMost of what people think about as part of the Arthur myth are from literary sources, like Lancelot, the Knights of the Round Table, or the Grail quest.
- bryanrasmussen 18d agoPeredur from the Mabinogion and Chrétien De Troyes Perceval are pretty strongly related, implying that there is a common Celtic source tale, but I don't think anyone has ever found one.
- bazoom42 19d agoIt is unknow whether it is based on a real historical person, but is there any question the oldest known version of the legend is Welsh?
- thaumasiotes 18d agoThe oldest known legends that obviously relate to the Arthurian mythology are Welsh. But the further back you go, the less historical they become. And I don't mean in the sense of historical records being less reliable farther back in time; I mean that the characters in the oldest legends are clearly supernatural figures. There is no reason to postulate supernatural figures as having historical enemies. Why would they?
- bazoom42 18d ago> the further back you go, the less historical they become This makes zero sense.