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Firing USDA inspectors etc. is definitely directionally stupid. But yeah, this issue is preexisting. A huge portion of USGov’s rules and regulations were writte

by Arubis 19d ago

Firing USDA inspectors etc. is definitely directionally stupid. But yeah, this issue is preexisting. A huge portion of USGov’s rules and regulations were written in response to the social push when stuff like The Jungle was hitting the public perception—which is to say, when public health could be meaningfully improved by a simple non-magnified visual inspection of meat destined for sale. And so that’s what we get: a visual inspection of meat destined for sale. Say what you will about the overall regulatory environment of Canada and the EU—you can buy meat there and know that you will not get salmonella, because it’s been tested for salmonella, and it won’t be sold for consumption if that test is positive. Stateside we’re just told: well, cook it properly or it’s on you.

gnuplustoejam 19d ago
> Canada and the EU—you can buy meat there and know that you will not get salmonella Where can I locate this Salmonella-immune Bizarro Canada and Bizarro EU on a map? https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2026/04/ongoing-salmonella-outbreak-in-canada-has-sickened-almost-200/ https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2026/04/ongoing-salmonella-ou... https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/article/90-confirmed-salmonella-cases-in-outbreak-linked-to-salami-health-agency/ https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/article/90-confirmed-salmonell... https://www.foodpoisoningnews.com/salmonella-outbreak-in-canada-update-84-total-illnesses-9-hospitalizations/ https://www.foodpoisoningnews.com/salmonella-outbreak-in-can... https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2026/08/polish-eggs-linked-to-4-french-salmonella-outbreaks/ https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2026/08/polish-eggs-linked-to... https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2025/10/salmonella-sickens-50-in-italian-region/ https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2025/10/salmonella-sickens-50... https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2026/04/one-dead-in-german-salmonella-outbreak/ https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2026/04/one-dead-in-german-sa...
- Arubis 19d ago
  Interesting -- I stand at least in part corrected. It _is_ the case that there's regulations intended specifically to address this. It seems they're not 100% effective, though. What gets me about your linked cases is that, with one exception, they're all to foods that you'd consume without further preparation or cooking. Not sure what to make of that--but it's not what you'd expect for a salmonella source.
  - gnuplustoejam 19d ago
    Salmonella is destroyed by heat. That's why you should thoroughly cook your food, especially if you have a weakened immune system. Eggs get recalled for Salmonella because we like them sunny side-up. Salmonella in ready-to-eat foods, introduced by cross-contamination, is a different story.
  - sellmesoap 18d ago
    The last time I had salmonella like food poisoning in Canada was likely a plate of vegetarian linguini in a small town restaurant. Could be someone grabbed my plate while processing meat or who knows... Meanwhile our food regulation folks are busy culling herds a year+ after a reported bird flu infection, or herds of cattle/raindeer at great emotional and financial cost only to have tests come back clean. Maybe we need to acknowledge when actions are more destructive then protective and course correct, issue apologies and make financial repairs to those affected. It sure makes for a lot of negative publicity for agencies tasked with protecting the public.

by Arubis 19d ago

gnuplustoejam 19d ago

> Canada and the EU—you can buy meat there and know that you will not get salmonella Where can I locate this Salmonella-immune Bizarro Canada and Bizarro EU on a map? https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2026/04/ongoing-salmonella-outbreak-in-canada-has-sickened-almost-200/ https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2026/04/ongoing-salmonella-ou... https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/article/90-confirmed-salmonella-cases-in-outbreak-linked-to-salami-health-agency/ https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/article/90-confirmed-salmonell... https://www.foodpoisoningnews.com/salmonella-outbreak-in-canada-update-84-total-illnesses-9-hospitalizations/ https://www.foodpoisoningnews.com/salmonella-outbreak-in-can... https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2026/08/polish-eggs-linked-to-4-french-salmonella-outbreaks/ https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2026/08/polish-eggs-linked-to... https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2025/10/salmonella-sickens-50-in-italian-region/ https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2025/10/salmonella-sickens-50... https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2026/04/one-dead-in-german-salmonella-outbreak/ https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2026/04/one-dead-in-german-sa...

Arubis 19d ago
Interesting -- I stand at least in part corrected. It _is_ the case that there's regulations intended specifically to address this. It seems they're not 100% effective, though. What gets me about your linked cases is that, with one exception, they're all to foods that you'd consume without further preparation or cooking. Not sure what to make of that--but it's not what you'd expect for a salmonella source.
- gnuplustoejam 19d ago
  Salmonella is destroyed by heat. That's why you should thoroughly cook your food, especially if you have a weakened immune system. Eggs get recalled for Salmonella because we like them sunny side-up. Salmonella in ready-to-eat foods, introduced by cross-contamination, is a different story.
- sellmesoap 18d ago
  The last time I had salmonella like food poisoning in Canada was likely a plate of vegetarian linguini in a small town restaurant. Could be someone grabbed my plate while processing meat or who knows... Meanwhile our food regulation folks are busy culling herds a year+ after a reported bird flu infection, or herds of cattle/raindeer at great emotional and financial cost only to have tests come back clean. Maybe we need to acknowledge when actions are more destructive then protective and course correct, issue apologies and make financial repairs to those affected. It sure makes for a lot of negative publicity for agencies tasked with protecting the public.