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This is also a problem with Google Maps navigation. It is always showing the perspective looking straight ahead of your current direction, even when you're appr

by shrx 19d ago

This is also a problem with Google Maps navigation. It is always showing the perspective looking straight ahead of your current direction, even when you're approaching a sharp turn. Instead, the perspective should be along a vector connecting your current location with the point where the navigation's path crosses the edge of the display, pointing straight up.

kccqzy 19d ago
That seems very wrong and unintuitive for U-turns.
- ssl-3 19d ago
  It does. Let us embrace this minor imperfection by simply excluding U-turns from this presentation method.
- shrx 19d ago
  Of course it could still have some maximum allowed rotation threshold.
  - kccqzy 18d ago
    Having any kind of threshold now makes your idea too complicated to implement, and more importantly, too complicated for mere mortals to understand.
    - shrx 18d ago
      I realize I've been spoiled by finally having the ability to tailor almost anything to my exact personal preference. Related: https://vibingwithai.substack.com/p/software-for-one-how-vibe-coding https://vibingwithai.substack.com/p/software-for-one-how-vib... and the HN discussion, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49096605 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49096605
pishpash 19d ago
So why not use 2D maps, have people lost the ability to read North up maps? I swear ever since paper maps have not been used in cars, people have gotten spatially dumber.
- tonyarkles 19d ago
  I love north-up maps because I find they give me way better spatial context. My truck’s nav system gives north-up as an option but my phone and my truck map both suffer from the same problem on different axes. My phone sits in its holder vertically, so I have way more north-south context than east-west. The truck screen is landscape, same problem north-south! A square map north-up would be amazing!
  - lmz 19d ago
    Obviously the answer is to get a square phone. One of those foldables?
- shrx 19d ago
  2D map would work the same way with my proposal. The "north is up" part is the issue for me, I'd like to have the rotation oriented in such a way that (the visible part of the path to) my destination is up.
NikolaNovak 19d ago
Took me a while to figure out what you're saying, now I assume you're using the "up is direction of motion"? I use map view / north is up, which makes it reasonably easy to get he big picture - I encourage everybody to try it :).
- shrx 19d ago
  >"up is direction of motion" Yes, this is how it's currently implemented. My proposal is "up is the intersection of the path with the edge of the screen". Here's a mock comparison of the current behavior with my proposal: https://i.imgur.com/AmUnzfS.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/AmUnzfS.jpeg (The mocked perspective is wrong because I just cut out and rotated the image, but hopefully you get the idea)

by shrx 19d ago

kccqzy 19d ago

That seems very wrong and unintuitive for U-turns.

ssl-3 19d ago
It does. Let us embrace this minor imperfection by simply excluding U-turns from this presentation method.
shrx 19d ago
Of course it could still have some maximum allowed rotation threshold.
- kccqzy 18d ago
  Having any kind of threshold now makes your idea too complicated to implement, and more importantly, too complicated for mere mortals to understand.
  - shrx 18d ago
    I realize I've been spoiled by finally having the ability to tailor almost anything to my exact personal preference. Related: https://vibingwithai.substack.com/p/software-for-one-how-vibe-coding https://vibingwithai.substack.com/p/software-for-one-how-vib... and the HN discussion, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49096605 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49096605

pishpash 19d ago

So why not use 2D maps, have people lost the ability to read North up maps? I swear ever since paper maps have not been used in cars, people have gotten spatially dumber.

tonyarkles 19d ago
I love north-up maps because I find they give me way better spatial context. My truck’s nav system gives north-up as an option but my phone and my truck map both suffer from the same problem on different axes. My phone sits in its holder vertically, so I have way more north-south context than east-west. The truck screen is landscape, same problem north-south! A square map north-up would be amazing!
- lmz 19d ago
  Obviously the answer is to get a square phone. One of those foldables?
shrx 19d ago
2D map would work the same way with my proposal. The "north is up" part is the issue for me, I'd like to have the rotation oriented in such a way that (the visible part of the path to) my destination is up.

NikolaNovak 19d ago

Took me a while to figure out what you're saying, now I assume you're using the "up is direction of motion"? I use map view / north is up, which makes it reasonably easy to get he big picture - I encourage everybody to try it :).

shrx 19d ago
>"up is direction of motion" Yes, this is how it's currently implemented. My proposal is "up is the intersection of the path with the edge of the screen". Here's a mock comparison of the current behavior with my proposal: https://i.imgur.com/AmUnzfS.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/AmUnzfS.jpeg (The mocked perspective is wrong because I just cut out and rotated the image, but hopefully you get the idea)