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The hardware is separable from the windows though.

Joel_Mckay 19d ago
Not always, Microsoft lingers like a fart in an elevator on some laptops. =3 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windows-itpro-blog/act-now-secure-boot-certificates-expire-in-june-2026/4426856 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windows-itpro-blog/...
- 7bit 19d ago
  Yes, always. The link you pasted doesn't prove otherwise. It just shows a luck of understanding UEFI
  - Joel_Mckay 19d ago
    Some vendor firmware blocks external platform key enrollments. Contains 100% farts. Have a great day =3
    - 7bit 19d ago
      That might be true. And has nothing to do with your previous ridiculous claim. Your comment is further proof you lack even basic understanding of UEFI. But I sense the feeling that logic won't change your emotional position on the matter, so I'm not going to bother you further.
      - Joel_Mckay 19d ago
        Someone probably buried your post for Sealioning, but in general even trying to install a clean windows 11 pro OS over a windows 11 Home embedded firmware license/hardware-signature on a gaming laptop is too complex for many users. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning Perhaps getting outside for a nice walk could lower stress levels a bit. =3
        efreak 19d ago
        In that case, I suggest (not having tried it) that updating the OS and then resetting it might work better? Does Windows still have the reset option it had in win8?
        Joel_Mckay 19d ago
        The issue is the update license is different than full install licenses, and the red sticker oem licenses people scam are hardware specific. You usually must pay for windows twice (or more if you don't know) to be Pro license compliant for commercial use. Setting a machine up for multi-boot Linux/BSD is not always a simple process with every BIOS firmware, and configuring Windows to stop automatic encryption of NTFS volumes is nontrivial. Even with an offline install for games, if the OneDrive account is ever activated... files are upped to Microsoft cloud anyway. Running an offline win11 account with a recent "rclone gui" NFS mounter for cloud APIs is a better option: https://github.com/rclone/rclone https://github.com/rclone/rclone winget install Rclone.Rclone Thankfully, disarming Win11 TPM/Drive-boobytrap/BS-encryption/Spam is easy with Rufus, O&O ShutUp10, and Copilot removal (note undocumented AI API areas suggested RAT/snitch-ware... the final straw with Microsoft BS around here...) https://github.com/pbatard/rufus https://github.com/pbatard/rufus https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 https://github.com/zoicware/RemoveWindowsAI https://github.com/zoicware/RemoveWindowsAI Yes it still supports DRM Steam games, and Win11 x4 gen4 SSDs are now about 17% faster i/o on my rig. You know what I like about Apple OS, is you just flip around 8 options and it goes quiet. Best of luck, ymmv =3
- Barbing 19d ago
  “Note: Affected third-party OS includes MacOS. However, it's outside the scope of Microsoft support. For Linux systems dual booting with Windows, Windows will update the certificates that Linux relies on.” macOS users out of luck?
  - Joel_Mckay 19d ago
    Some had to do a manual firmware/BIOS update. ymmv =3

Not always, Microsoft lingers like a fart in an elevator on some laptops. =3 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windows-itpro-blog/act-now-secure-boot-certificates-expire-in-june-2026/4426856 https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windows-itpro-blog/...

7bit 19d ago
Yes, always. The link you pasted doesn't prove otherwise. It just shows a luck of understanding UEFI
- Joel_Mckay 19d ago
  Some vendor firmware blocks external platform key enrollments. Contains 100% farts. Have a great day =3
  - 7bit 19d ago
    That might be true. And has nothing to do with your previous ridiculous claim. Your comment is further proof you lack even basic understanding of UEFI. But I sense the feeling that logic won't change your emotional position on the matter, so I'm not going to bother you further.
    - Joel_Mckay 19d ago
      Someone probably buried your post for Sealioning, but in general even trying to install a clean windows 11 pro OS over a windows 11 Home embedded firmware license/hardware-signature on a gaming laptop is too complex for many users. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning Perhaps getting outside for a nice walk could lower stress levels a bit. =3
      - efreak 19d ago
        In that case, I suggest (not having tried it) that updating the OS and then resetting it might work better? Does Windows still have the reset option it had in win8?
        Joel_Mckay 19d ago
        The issue is the update license is different than full install licenses, and the red sticker oem licenses people scam are hardware specific. You usually must pay for windows twice (or more if you don't know) to be Pro license compliant for commercial use. Setting a machine up for multi-boot Linux/BSD is not always a simple process with every BIOS firmware, and configuring Windows to stop automatic encryption of NTFS volumes is nontrivial. Even with an offline install for games, if the OneDrive account is ever activated... files are upped to Microsoft cloud anyway. Running an offline win11 account with a recent "rclone gui" NFS mounter for cloud APIs is a better option: https://github.com/rclone/rclone https://github.com/rclone/rclone winget install Rclone.Rclone Thankfully, disarming Win11 TPM/Drive-boobytrap/BS-encryption/Spam is easy with Rufus, O&O ShutUp10, and Copilot removal (note undocumented AI API areas suggested RAT/snitch-ware... the final straw with Microsoft BS around here...) https://github.com/pbatard/rufus https://github.com/pbatard/rufus https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 https://github.com/zoicware/RemoveWindowsAI https://github.com/zoicware/RemoveWindowsAI Yes it still supports DRM Steam games, and Win11 x4 gen4 SSDs are now about 17% faster i/o on my rig. You know what I like about Apple OS, is you just flip around 8 options and it goes quiet. Best of luck, ymmv =3
Barbing 19d ago
“Note: Affected third-party OS includes MacOS. However, it's outside the scope of Microsoft support. For Linux systems dual booting with Windows, Windows will update the certificates that Linux relies on.” macOS users out of luck?
- Joel_Mckay 19d ago
  Some had to do a manual firmware/BIOS update. ymmv =3