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At the end of the day, it's the "Is your green my green?" question and is unknowable. You cannot describe something that someone lacks or has a substantially d
by ethbr1 19d ago
At the end of the day, it's the "Is your green my green?" question and is unknowable.
You cannot describe something that someone lacks or has a substantially different subjective experience with, truly.
The best we can do is show that the effects of your seeing green are the same as mine (biologically, behaviorally, etc).
If you're curious about the broader subject, would highly recommend reading An Anthropologist on Mars.
- vinceguidry 19d agoColor is perhaps the worst thing to try to make this argument with. We can measure it with tools and there's entire industries that would fall apart if human color perception wasn't a knowable thing. Like, the whole Apple iMessage thing with the green and blue bubbles wouldn't, couldn't have even been a thing if human color perception weren't widely shared. We, like all mammals, have very similar neural architecture that evolved to keep us safe from predators. It's pretty reliable.
- ethbr1 19d agoIt's not the question of if objective physical green pigment is objective physical green pigment, but rather if what I see when I look at it is what you see (and not in the color blind sense, assuming neither of us are).
- saghm 18d agoExcept there are no people like the parent commenter insisting that everyone is capable of seeing their green if they tried hard enough or whatever
- saghm 19d ago> At the end of the day, it's the "Is your green my green?" question and is unknowable. It sounds like you're equating the comment I responded to with a question about colorblindness is a skill issue. I'm guessing that's not what you're actually arguing, but it's not clear to me what the actually analogy you're trying to make is.