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can this administration just do a single thing that isn't evil and self serving? it bogles my mind that every single thing they do is just awful.

ajross 20d ago
Honestly more than half of this sort of mess is incompetence rather than malice. But... yeah, sigh. Our grandkids just aren't going to believe what it was like.
- guywithahat 20d ago
  > Our grandkids just aren't going to believe what it was like You mean reading about beef recalls? Yeah they'll be shocked
  - add-sub-mul-div 20d ago
    Which interpretation of your comment do you think makes you look better: that you're pretending not to understand the point being made, or that you truly don't understand the point being made?
    - boolol 20d ago
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    - guywithahat 19d ago
      So you think this comment: > Our grandkids just aren't going to believe what it was like Is appropriate for recalling ~30 cows worth of beef? There is no secret point being made, it's just average things happening while certain people overreact.
      - add-sub-mul-div 19d ago
        You're expected to understand at a high level the incompetence and corruption that's being referenced as having led to this. You can disagree with the take, but being ignorant of it doesn't make sense.
        guywithahat 19d ago
        This is a post about beef being recalled. Broadly though, the belief that "current X politician from Y party is the worst, most corrupt politician ever" is a childish belief. I've heard it said about every president and high-ranking politician in my lifetime and it is not remarkable. Frankly the Biden scandals where his son was cutting him into foreign payments seemed worse, and there's no reason to think this beef import had anything to do with corruption, and certainly not at the presidential level.
      - anigbrowl 19d ago
        It's a synecdoche for the broader pattern of ruinous self-owns.
- deepfriedbits 20d ago
  Usually I'm with you. In these instances, there's a ton of malice, however, with what DOGE did and the relentless drive from conservatism to shrink government and regulations (many of which aim to protect consumers).
- somenameforme 20d ago
  If you look at the trajectory of things since the turn of the century, let alone prior, it's more likely that we'll be recounting stories of today as the 'good ole days.' We didn't start the fire. It was always burning, since the world's been turning. No we didn't light it, and we tried to fight it.
Reason077 20d ago
What makes you think this is “evil and self-serving”? It affects a relatively small quantity of specific products from a specific supplier with specific use-by dates. In any case, this is Argentinian beef, not Canadian or something. Isn’t the US administration pretty friendly with the right-wing populist Argentinian government?
- cosmicgadget 20d ago
  They are, leads me to wonder if something was found and the limited hangout is a paperwork snafu. Considering the administration is loudly trying to bring beef prices down via imports, it would look doubly bad if tainted beef came from Trump's bff.
- conception 20d ago
  https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-beef-imports-brooke-rollins-b3039094.html https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-polit...
- 0xbadcafebee 20d ago
  Trump promoted the sale of the beef at a discount a week ago on Truth Social, and now the beef is recalled. Clearly it was bad beef, and he and his cronies made a mint fire-selling it, while American businesses take a loss. Pretty basic corruption.
  - Reason077 19d ago
    Except this recall was originally announced on August 7th, predating Trump’s imported beef announcement/promotion by a few weeks?
- kotaKat 20d ago
  So there's some context as well with Argentina beef. https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/rampant-speculation-of-blacklisted-huawei-becoming-chinas-largest-beef-importer-stems-from-an-odd-payment-method-for-telecom-equipment https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/ra... Argentina's been paying Huawei for 5G gear and services with beef direct to China, who's been selling it via Huawei stores (see https://www.huaweimossel.com/ https://www.huaweimossel.com/). Earlier in March a shipment of ~22 tons of beef was rejected by China for having antibiotics in it and was 'contaminated'. Follow the trail...
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ajross 20d ago

Honestly more than half of this sort of mess is incompetence rather than malice. But... yeah, sigh. Our grandkids just aren't going to believe what it was like.

guywithahat 20d ago
> Our grandkids just aren't going to believe what it was like You mean reading about beef recalls? Yeah they'll be shocked
- add-sub-mul-div 20d ago
  Which interpretation of your comment do you think makes you look better: that you're pretending not to understand the point being made, or that you truly don't understand the point being made?
  - boolol 20d ago
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  - guywithahat 19d ago
    So you think this comment: > Our grandkids just aren't going to believe what it was like Is appropriate for recalling ~30 cows worth of beef? There is no secret point being made, it's just average things happening while certain people overreact.
    - add-sub-mul-div 19d ago
      You're expected to understand at a high level the incompetence and corruption that's being referenced as having led to this. You can disagree with the take, but being ignorant of it doesn't make sense.
      - guywithahat 19d ago
        This is a post about beef being recalled. Broadly though, the belief that "current X politician from Y party is the worst, most corrupt politician ever" is a childish belief. I've heard it said about every president and high-ranking politician in my lifetime and it is not remarkable. Frankly the Biden scandals where his son was cutting him into foreign payments seemed worse, and there's no reason to think this beef import had anything to do with corruption, and certainly not at the presidential level.
    - anigbrowl 19d ago
      It's a synecdoche for the broader pattern of ruinous self-owns.
deepfriedbits 20d ago
Usually I'm with you. In these instances, there's a ton of malice, however, with what DOGE did and the relentless drive from conservatism to shrink government and regulations (many of which aim to protect consumers).
somenameforme 20d ago
If you look at the trajectory of things since the turn of the century, let alone prior, it's more likely that we'll be recounting stories of today as the 'good ole days.' We didn't start the fire. It was always burning, since the world's been turning. No we didn't light it, and we tried to fight it.

Reason077 20d ago

What makes you think this is “evil and self-serving”? It affects a relatively small quantity of specific products from a specific supplier with specific use-by dates. In any case, this is Argentinian beef, not Canadian or something. Isn’t the US administration pretty friendly with the right-wing populist Argentinian government?

cosmicgadget 20d ago
They are, leads me to wonder if something was found and the limited hangout is a paperwork snafu. Considering the administration is loudly trying to bring beef prices down via imports, it would look doubly bad if tainted beef came from Trump's bff.
conception 20d ago
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-beef-imports-brooke-rollins-b3039094.html https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-polit...
0xbadcafebee 20d ago
Trump promoted the sale of the beef at a discount a week ago on Truth Social, and now the beef is recalled. Clearly it was bad beef, and he and his cronies made a mint fire-selling it, while American businesses take a loss. Pretty basic corruption.
- Reason077 19d ago
  Except this recall was originally announced on August 7th, predating Trump’s imported beef announcement/promotion by a few weeks?
kotaKat 20d ago
So there's some context as well with Argentina beef. https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/rampant-speculation-of-blacklisted-huawei-becoming-chinas-largest-beef-importer-stems-from-an-odd-payment-method-for-telecom-equipment https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/ra... Argentina's been paying Huawei for 5G gear and services with beef direct to China, who's been selling it via Huawei stores (see https://www.huaweimossel.com/ https://www.huaweimossel.com/). Earlier in March a shipment of ~22 tons of beef was rejected by China for having antibiotics in it and was 'contaminated'. Follow the trail...

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