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I can't stress this enough -- boycott all meta products. Delete them off your phone. You don't need insta and whatsapp. Starve the demon of your data.

cube00 22d ago
Some countries (India, Brazil, Mexico and Indonesia) run entirely on WhatsApp including payments. If you want to book a doctor's appointment you don't call and talk to an AI chat bot you message them on WhatsApp. Signal was starting to gain traction until they dumped text message support and people were like, "well if I need two apps now I'll just drop Signal"
- mandeepj 22d ago
  > If you want to book a doctor's appointment you don't call and talk to an AI chat bot you message them on WhatsApp. It’s so rare to come across it in India, I can say - there’s no such thing.
  - cube00 22d ago
    >It's so rare to come across it in India, I can say - there’s no such thing. WhatsApp payments are only offered [1] in four countries (including India) it can't be "no such thing" [1]: https://faq.whatsapp.com/1293279751500598 https://faq.whatsapp.com/1293279751500598
- lbebber 22d ago
  In Brazil, communications do run entirely on WhatsApp, but payments are entirely on Pix. Also I rememeber when there was a Meta-wide outage, and people switched to Telegram within the day, so the stranglehold they have might not be that strong.
ray_v 22d ago
Is there a "crypto-shred" method for destroying access to your account? Like, change your email to one that expires/isn't reusable, then change the password to some totally random, lengthy string and then never record it?
amir734jj 22d ago
I would love to. Unfortunately, half of my friends are on Instagram and the other half on WhatsApp. We are screwed.
bigyabai 22d ago
It's like asking people to stop buying iPhones or using Windows, it's too late now. If you don't write the regulations yourself, then these companies are happy to come along and write them for you.

cube00 22d ago

Some countries (India, Brazil, Mexico and Indonesia) run entirely on WhatsApp including payments. If you want to book a doctor's appointment you don't call and talk to an AI chat bot you message them on WhatsApp. Signal was starting to gain traction until they dumped text message support and people were like, "well if I need two apps now I'll just drop Signal"

mandeepj 22d ago
> If you want to book a doctor's appointment you don't call and talk to an AI chat bot you message them on WhatsApp. It’s so rare to come across it in India, I can say - there’s no such thing.
- cube00 22d ago
  >It's so rare to come across it in India, I can say - there’s no such thing. WhatsApp payments are only offered [1] in four countries (including India) it can't be "no such thing" [1]: https://faq.whatsapp.com/1293279751500598 https://faq.whatsapp.com/1293279751500598
lbebber 22d ago
In Brazil, communications do run entirely on WhatsApp, but payments are entirely on Pix. Also I rememeber when there was a Meta-wide outage, and people switched to Telegram within the day, so the stranglehold they have might not be that strong.

ray_v 22d ago

Is there a "crypto-shred" method for destroying access to your account? Like, change your email to one that expires/isn't reusable, then change the password to some totally random, lengthy string and then never record it?

amir734jj 22d ago

I would love to. Unfortunately, half of my friends are on Instagram and the other half on WhatsApp. We are screwed.

bigyabai 22d ago

It's like asking people to stop buying iPhones or using Windows, it's too late now. If you don't write the regulations yourself, then these companies are happy to come along and write them for you.