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btw - personal licences only (i.e. not commercial licenses).

by bitdiffusion 14y ago

nopassrecover 14y ago
As I understood it a personal license is just a named license (you can still use it commercially).
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- bitdiffusion 14y ago
  From the documentation: Personal licenses are not available to companies in any way or form. Transfer of personal licenses to any third party and/or reimbursement for personal license purchase by a company are prohibited by the Personal License Agreement. So not sure what to make of that exactly... Individuals can buy it and use it commercially but companies can't? Even if you're a contractor working in your spare time, you are likely to be registered as a limited company.
  - andrewcooke 14y ago
    i have a personal licence and use it for work. no-one has sued me. it's my ide. i bought it. i use it. that is how i expect things to work. surely the commercial licence is for when a company is buying it, and expects to have N programmers, who are replaceable, using it at any one time. that's a completely different use case. the only frustrating thing is that if you have multiple machines (say a desktop and a laptop) and switch between them (eg working one project on the laptop in living room; leaving the ide open for another project in the office) then it complains. you can fix this by blocking some firewall port (bonjour iirc). oh, that and the complete LACK OF SUPPORT FOR C / C++... in intellij idea.
    - canttestthis 14y ago
      The way I understood it, a personal license is if you're paying for it (and the company isn't reimbursing you for it). You can still use it for commercial purposes.
    - hhariri 14y ago
      Personal license means it's in your name, nothing more. Whereas Commercial license means it's in your company's name and therefore unnamed, so it does not belong to a single individual but to the company.
  - jasonlotito 14y ago
    Personal license means I can use it. Company license means the company can let me, or any ONE else at the company use it.
  - porker 14y ago
    Yes and the contractor issue is important. Like most contractors in the UK I work through a limited company for tax reasons; that means the tools have to be owned by the company. However... in effect I am the company, no one else will use it. JetBrains need to give us an official answer on that situation. I qualify for the personal license, but I have to enter a VAT number
- rdemmer 14y ago
  The commercial license is the basic licensing model and it has the same functionality as a personal or an academic licenses. JetBrains offers discounted personal models to support private individuals. It is only the following exception, which allows you to buy a discounted personal license model: If you have to pay it out of your own pocket, you are not getting reimbursed for buying it and you do not use any company detail (company name, company address, company VAT ID) during the purchasing process.
- m1rk00 14y ago
  From their Twitter response to someone else: "Commercial license is transferable between company employees. Personal is licensed to you only." Source: https://twitter.com/jetbrains/status/281733624942981120 https://twitter.com/jetbrains/status/281733624942981120
hrabago 14y ago
I own personal licenses for 3 of their products. I use all three products for commercial work, but those licenses are my personal property. Two of those I use in my day job, the other I use for my spare time iOS development.
robmcm 14y ago
Not sure what happens if you are self employed or have a limited company to consult from.
- porker 14y ago
  That's the issue; JetBrains seem entirely unaware of that. I am one man operating through a limited company. According to them I have to buy the commercial edition even though I am the company...
  - anu_gupta 14y ago
    You can buy a personal licence using your own credit card. What you can't do is buy a license using your company credit card, or claim back the expense.

btw - personal licences only (i.e. not commercial licenses).

nopassrecover 14y ago

As I understood it a personal license is just a named license (you can still use it commercially).

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bitdiffusion 14y ago
From the documentation: Personal licenses are not available to companies in any way or form. Transfer of personal licenses to any third party and/or reimbursement for personal license purchase by a company are prohibited by the Personal License Agreement. So not sure what to make of that exactly... Individuals can buy it and use it commercially but companies can't? Even if you're a contractor working in your spare time, you are likely to be registered as a limited company.
- andrewcooke 14y ago
  i have a personal licence and use it for work. no-one has sued me. it's my ide. i bought it. i use it. that is how i expect things to work. surely the commercial licence is for when a company is buying it, and expects to have N programmers, who are replaceable, using it at any one time. that's a completely different use case. the only frustrating thing is that if you have multiple machines (say a desktop and a laptop) and switch between them (eg working one project on the laptop in living room; leaving the ide open for another project in the office) then it complains. you can fix this by blocking some firewall port (bonjour iirc). oh, that and the complete LACK OF SUPPORT FOR C / C++... in intellij idea.
  - canttestthis 14y ago
    The way I understood it, a personal license is if you're paying for it (and the company isn't reimbursing you for it). You can still use it for commercial purposes.
  - hhariri 14y ago
    Personal license means it's in your name, nothing more. Whereas Commercial license means it's in your company's name and therefore unnamed, so it does not belong to a single individual but to the company.
- jasonlotito 14y ago
  Personal license means I can use it. Company license means the company can let me, or any ONE else at the company use it.
- porker 14y ago
  Yes and the contractor issue is important. Like most contractors in the UK I work through a limited company for tax reasons; that means the tools have to be owned by the company. However... in effect I am the company, no one else will use it. JetBrains need to give us an official answer on that situation. I qualify for the personal license, but I have to enter a VAT number
rdemmer 14y ago
The commercial license is the basic licensing model and it has the same functionality as a personal or an academic licenses. JetBrains offers discounted personal models to support private individuals. It is only the following exception, which allows you to buy a discounted personal license model: If you have to pay it out of your own pocket, you are not getting reimbursed for buying it and you do not use any company detail (company name, company address, company VAT ID) during the purchasing process.
m1rk00 14y ago
From their Twitter response to someone else: "Commercial license is transferable between company employees. Personal is licensed to you only." Source: https://twitter.com/jetbrains/status/281733624942981120 https://twitter.com/jetbrains/status/281733624942981120

hrabago 14y ago

I own personal licenses for 3 of their products. I use all three products for commercial work, but those licenses are my personal property. Two of those I use in my day job, the other I use for my spare time iOS development.

robmcm 14y ago

Not sure what happens if you are self employed or have a limited company to consult from.

porker 14y ago
That's the issue; JetBrains seem entirely unaware of that. I am one man operating through a limited company. According to them I have to buy the commercial edition even though I am the company...
- anu_gupta 14y ago
  You can buy a personal licence using your own credit card. What you can't do is buy a license using your company credit card, or claim back the expense.