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> Do you think this is where it stops? This is where it begins. No, this is pretty much where it stops. The models are good enough for the average coding task
by preommr 20d ago
> Do you think this is where it stops? This is where it begins.
No, this is pretty much where it stops.
The models are good enough for the average coding task, and the slop they produce often is in the category of what a bad or careless dev that's being contracted out might produce.
Yea, they'll get better, but not in next-level sort of way.
The limitation is not the models or intelligence, it's the human in the loop. We're still stuck on stupid human issues ranging from usability bugs, to figuring out what the product should be, to how we should program in the first place.
I know the models are capable of sorting out issues it gets stuck on because it's writing error handling in the wrong way, or just it doesn't have the right abstractions, because we can't settle on the right way to program. I still see people arguing about dyanmic vs. static typing.
And obviously, there is a next level, but that's real singularity, and we're all out of jobs.
- therealdrag0 20d agoI think the limitation is still context. Humans are better at judgment than AI because humans have more context to put together better decisions. when AI has all of the context, It beats the socks off me.. for better or worse sharing and organizing context is a notoriously difficult problem that won’t be solved overnight. This could easily be a 10 or 20 year problem because it depends on human organizational structures and investing in free flow of information and information storage tools. Unifying search tools like Glean help a lot here but they’re also expensive.
- dwaltrip 20d ago100% agreed. I consider Fable to be a super genius that was born yesterday and has memorized the internet, yet barely understands humans on a deep behavioral level. By the end of a session, sometimes Fable and I are cooking incredibly, but then alas we have to start a fresh session. A lot of the intangibles about what are going well at that point are extremely difficult, if not impossible, to capture compactly in a “handoff” or “guidelines”. The lived experience of working with me through the session, as represented in the current context, is what produces the higher quality results. And likewise, the naivety it has as a newborn at the start of every session, along with the lack of deep human behavioral understanding, explains why these cutting edge models like Fable can still be so dumb in some ways while being mind-blowing in other ways.