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1. Its the people who worship Rihanna and Guy Sebastian is the problem. If you don't like those people, don't need to buy their stuffs. I am a musician but I, n

1. Its the people who worship Rihanna and Guy Sebastian is the problem. If you don't like those people, don't need to buy their stuffs. I am a musician but I, never in my life, have any idols whatsoever. I don't buy their stuffs. I create my own. One wonder how can the entertainment industry survives anyway if everyone is like me. But thankfully not everyone is like me, the world goes around. 2. You can support local artist, not the big name ones. 3. You can still create your own music without AI, by you know, picking up musical instruments, paying your local guitar teachers to teach you so he can send his kids to college. To not do so is just laziness. Full. Stop.

bcjdjsndon 22d ago
> I am a musician but I, never in my life, have any idols whatsoever. Let's hear this music then.... What's the guessing it's not very good.
- copemaxxxing 22d ago
  Well, you'll be surprised. I am probably better than you. Taste is relative after all.
  - dosisking 22d ago
    Based on your attitude, bcjdjsndon is probably correct.
    - card_zero 22d ago
      Egotism worked out OK for Muhammad Ali, and various rappers. It's uncorrelated with whether you're any good or not.
      - bcjdjsndon 21d ago
        Cassius couldn't shut his mouth cos he was scared, real men don't need to constantly prove their worth to everyone like he did. Watch him try to antagonise Joe Louis who just pulled a gun out and shit the ceiling, Ali was off like shot
    - copemaxxxing 22d ago
      Peak HN.
  - bcjdjsndon 21d ago
    Link it then
tass 22d ago
I think many people believe their streaming use will only pay artists who they listen to, not realizing the streaming service actually pays artists based upon overall listener numbers (or possibly pre-negotiated amounts). So, in the old days you would "support (a) local artist" by buying their album and now people probably think they are supporting them by listening to them on spotify/whatever but they really are not. Your streaming dollars are almost entirely going to Rihanna and every other big artist even if you don't listen to a single song by them.
- inigyou 22d ago
  > many people believe their streaming use will only pay artists who they listen to, not realizing the streaming service actually pays artists based upon overall listener numbers Those are the same thing
  - ksymph 22d ago
    They're similar, but subtly different. Say Bob pays a $5 subscription and listens exclusively to artist Foo, 100 song plays. Alice pays a $5 subscription and listens exclusively to artist Baz, but plays their songs a whopping 300 times. If it was paid out per user, Foo and Baz would both get $5. But paying out based on overall listener numbers, Foo would get $2.50 and Baz would get $7.50. Essentially, it's a zero sum game, and one artist getting a play takes away revenue from every other artist. Even if you exclusively listen to your favorite artists, the vast majority of your subscription money is going towards the top artists. This is why Spotify is always pushing their own playlists, smart shuffle, and encouraging background listening with ambient / sleep playlists and such; the more they can shift listeners toward music they've produced themselves or have special license agreements with, the less they have to pay out to typical (i.e. smaller) artists using their platform.
  - happymellon 22d ago
    No they aren't. I pay $5 and listen exclusively to artist A. 10 other people pay their $5 but listen exclusively to artist B. I would expect the artist cut of artist A to be the $5 (or their cut after Spotify), aka the artist I listen to. However the 10 other platform users have more free time so each listen to twice as much music by artist B. So my 1 hour is dwarfed by their 20 hours, and my artist would only get $2.60 (or their cut after Spotify). Overall listener plays.

bcjdjsndon 22d ago

> I am a musician but I, never in my life, have any idols whatsoever. Let's hear this music then.... What's the guessing it's not very good.

copemaxxxing 22d ago
Well, you'll be surprised. I am probably better than you. Taste is relative after all.
- dosisking 22d ago
  Based on your attitude, bcjdjsndon is probably correct.
  - card_zero 22d ago
    Egotism worked out OK for Muhammad Ali, and various rappers. It's uncorrelated with whether you're any good or not.
    - bcjdjsndon 21d ago
      Cassius couldn't shut his mouth cos he was scared, real men don't need to constantly prove their worth to everyone like he did. Watch him try to antagonise Joe Louis who just pulled a gun out and shit the ceiling, Ali was off like shot
  - copemaxxxing 22d ago
    Peak HN.
- bcjdjsndon 21d ago
  Link it then

tass 22d ago

I think many people believe their streaming use will only pay artists who they listen to, not realizing the streaming service actually pays artists based upon overall listener numbers (or possibly pre-negotiated amounts). So, in the old days you would "support (a) local artist" by buying their album and now people probably think they are supporting them by listening to them on spotify/whatever but they really are not. Your streaming dollars are almost entirely going to Rihanna and every other big artist even if you don't listen to a single song by them.

inigyou 22d ago
> many people believe their streaming use will only pay artists who they listen to, not realizing the streaming service actually pays artists based upon overall listener numbers Those are the same thing
- ksymph 22d ago
  They're similar, but subtly different. Say Bob pays a $5 subscription and listens exclusively to artist Foo, 100 song plays. Alice pays a $5 subscription and listens exclusively to artist Baz, but plays their songs a whopping 300 times. If it was paid out per user, Foo and Baz would both get $5. But paying out based on overall listener numbers, Foo would get $2.50 and Baz would get $7.50. Essentially, it's a zero sum game, and one artist getting a play takes away revenue from every other artist. Even if you exclusively listen to your favorite artists, the vast majority of your subscription money is going towards the top artists. This is why Spotify is always pushing their own playlists, smart shuffle, and encouraging background listening with ambient / sleep playlists and such; the more they can shift listeners toward music they've produced themselves or have special license agreements with, the less they have to pay out to typical (i.e. smaller) artists using their platform.
- happymellon 22d ago
  No they aren't. I pay $5 and listen exclusively to artist A. 10 other people pay their $5 but listen exclusively to artist B. I would expect the artist cut of artist A to be the $5 (or their cut after Spotify), aka the artist I listen to. However the 10 other platform users have more free time so each listen to twice as much music by artist B. So my 1 hour is dwarfed by their 20 hours, and my artist would only get $2.60 (or their cut after Spotify). Overall listener plays.