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I don't get the EU reference in any sense: "The company was founded in 2016 by French entrepreneurs Clément Delangue, Julien Chaumond, and Thomas Wolf in New Y
by _the_inflator 21d ago
I don't get the EU reference in any sense:
"The company was founded in 2016 by French entrepreneurs Clément Delangue, Julien Chaumond, and Thomas Wolf in New York City, originally as a company that developed a chatbot app targeted at teenagers. ..." Wikipedia
Besides that: which EU and sovereignty doesn't really rhyme, given data protection, energy costs, AI restrictions and no vital start up scene at all.
Mistral is heavily state funded via Banks that are predominantly owned by the French state, so I don't get it.
Also name one global success that doesn't came from US? China? Well, second place maybe, but second in any sense.
Nevertheless, kudos to huggingface. Not only to the founders, but to the ecosystem and I guess it got harder by the day to finance all the hosting and only hope for the future, that Nvidia will help HF to thrive, at least not put burdens on them.
GitHub is still alive, and hope that HF will benefit from more AI power.
Nvidia doesn't have any disadvantages in my playbook, because hardware wise, there is no one to beat them in any regard and Apple will always stay nichy.
So well played - hopefully.
It could be worse or even a shut down otherwise, who knows. So for me it sounds cool and I am glad that EU isn't involved in any regard.
As the AI Act demands full disclosure under really easy to match requirements into your inner workings, this is quite the opposite of freely sharing information.
- cdmckay 21d agoChina as “second place in any sense” ignores reality. TikTok: achieved global cultural and algorithmic dominance. DJI: controls roughly 70% of the global consumer and commercial drone market. CATL: The world’s largest EV battery manufacturer. BYD: Surpassed Tesla in total electric vehicle production volume. Shein & Temu The list goes on…
- PaulHoule 21d agoEurope will talk tepidly about reusable rockets, China will develop reusable rockets.
- Art9681 21d agoThe list goes on for products and services they cloned from western innovation. China didn't get there first in any of the categories you listed. Of course, people would rather spend less than more, disregarding the quality and longevity of the product. Paying pennies on the dollar for a BYD vehicle sounds great when all you consider is the initial sticker price. The real cost is what happens after you buy the disposable car and own it for a decade. So yea. Second place is the reality and it is also true for AI models, and the hardware needed to run them. Also, congratulations on landing a rocket 11 years after the US. Took long enough.
- bestham 20d agoFrom where I’m sitting in Europe, Tesla feels like the disposable car. Gatekeeping repairs and parts and more quality defects needing post shipment corrections than other brands. To take a concept and refine it to reach mass production is success. It is what made the US what you believe it is today and it is what is creating a healthy supply chain in China. Just look at the challenges of Destin of Smarter Every Day[1] when producing a grill scrubber using only US suppliers and materials. A “Made in the USA” label is no guarantee of superior design or manufacturing quality to me but if Japan is mentioned I have a greater confidence in the quality of the product. [1]: https://www.smartereveryday.com/smarterscrubber https://www.smartereveryday.com/smarterscrubber
- saberience 21d agoSorry but you're talking absolute nonsense, Europe has no global successes? How about... SAP (Germany) - Most of the Fortune 500 run on their software. Spotify (Sweden) Novo Nordisk (Denmark) - most of America is taking their drugs. Airbus (France) - Has out competed and out delivered Boeing for years. Ericsson and Nokia (Finland and Sweden) - Most of American telecom systems use tech from them, essentially the western alternative to Huawei in telecom networking. Adyen (Netherlands) - One of the worlds largest payment processors, processes most of American big tech payments. ASML (Netherlands) - Responsible for building effectively every modern chip in the world outside of China. Maersk (Shipping and logistics) Siemens (Industrial Tech) Infineon (Semis) And there are so many more I'm missing btw. It's funny how incredibly biased you are, but the reality is that Europe and the USA are totally dependent on each other, tech wise. If every European company which the US is dependent on immediately stopped trading with the US, the US would collapse as a country. And yes, the opposite is true also. But it was you who argued that Europe effectively has no successful companies, what rubbish.
- orbifold 21d agoIf SAP appears in a list of successes then clearly EU is fucked.
- saberience 15d agoI'm talking about massive global financial successes. Also, if SAP is "so bad", where are the amazing American competitors? From what I heard, the Oracle equivalent is even worse than SAP. Build your own startup to compete with them! I'm guessing it's not as easy a product to make as people may assume.
- andrewflnr 21d agoThat's an embarrassing example that shouldn't have been at the top, but most of the rest are good.
- Ar-Curunir 21d agoYet on most metrics IBM is a success.
- realo 21d agoA global non USA success? Plenty. You might want to remove your pink USA glasses and look around. Spotify good enough for you?
- selectodude 21d agoHas Spotify made money yet?