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HuggingFace offers abliterated/uncensored models, which would seem to run contrary to the "AI is too powerful for regular people" narrative that the big players

HuggingFace offers abliterated/uncensored models, which would seem to run contrary to the "AI is too powerful for regular people" narrative that the big players are pushing. My primary concern is that Nvidia will bow to the pressure and restrict abliterated/uncensored models on HF.

jacquesm 21d ago
That is a very good point. I will set aside some storage and download those models that I think are most at risk from a corporate clean-up action.
anon291 21d ago
I don't think nvda has ever pushed the idea that ai is too powerful for regular people. That's the anthropics and openais of the world.
- twobitshifter 21d ago
  OP said they will bow to pressure, which just means that governments will be able to control nv and get them to ban the obliterated models, implement ’safety’ controls on all uploaded models.
discodave 21d ago
Pretty sure Nvidias dream is that OpenAI and Anthropic get into a hacking war using Nvidia cards. The problem for them is that the leading provider of training and inference is actually AWS...
lgl 21d ago
Yes, this is a real possibility imho. Having Nvidia behind HF will now probably have a bunch of litigious entities salivating to sue them for not only allowing, but also distributing uncensored AI models that will then be used for deepfakes, porn, spam, scam, hacking, etc. Sure that could have also been done to HF before, but I'm thinking Nvidia is a much juicier target. Should also now be much easier for the government to just eventually force NVidia to restrict access to Chinese open models seeing as it will now become an American company that needs to obey to American law and we all know how American AI companies are lobbying for exactly that.
- stackghost 21d ago
  >Should also now be much easier for the government to just eventually force NVidia to restrict access to Chinese open models seeing as it will now become an American company that needs to obey to American law and we all know how American AI companies are lobbying for exactly that. Using regulation to avoid having to be competitive is the American Way! In all seriousness though, probably time to start an underground equivalent to HF.
  - lgl 20d ago
    Maybe we'll eventually have some sort of Anna's archive for AI ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

jacquesm 21d ago

That is a very good point. I will set aside some storage and download those models that I think are most at risk from a corporate clean-up action.

anon291 21d ago

I don't think nvda has ever pushed the idea that ai is too powerful for regular people. That's the anthropics and openais of the world.

twobitshifter 21d ago
OP said they will bow to pressure, which just means that governments will be able to control nv and get them to ban the obliterated models, implement ’safety’ controls on all uploaded models.

discodave 21d ago

Pretty sure Nvidias dream is that OpenAI and Anthropic get into a hacking war using Nvidia cards. The problem for them is that the leading provider of training and inference is actually AWS...

lgl 21d ago

Yes, this is a real possibility imho. Having Nvidia behind HF will now probably have a bunch of litigious entities salivating to sue them for not only allowing, but also distributing uncensored AI models that will then be used for deepfakes, porn, spam, scam, hacking, etc. Sure that could have also been done to HF before, but I'm thinking Nvidia is a much juicier target. Should also now be much easier for the government to just eventually force NVidia to restrict access to Chinese open models seeing as it will now become an American company that needs to obey to American law and we all know how American AI companies are lobbying for exactly that.

stackghost 21d ago
>Should also now be much easier for the government to just eventually force NVidia to restrict access to Chinese open models seeing as it will now become an American company that needs to obey to American law and we all know how American AI companies are lobbying for exactly that. Using regulation to avoid having to be competitive is the American Way! In all seriousness though, probably time to start an underground equivalent to HF.
- lgl 20d ago
  Maybe we'll eventually have some sort of Anna's archive for AI ¯\_(ツ)_/¯