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Why is this downvoted? Bedrock is literally dog shit clone for iPad kids. This is not even controversial, it's just fact.

by tucnak 21d ago

idiotsecant 21d ago
Yaaaa get those 9 year olds good stupid plebs can't even buy their own computer, you really gottem
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- frollogaston 20d ago
  The irony is it's more like 35 year olds who don't care about modding realistic nuclear reactors into the game and just want to play with their kids
  - Ancapistani 15d ago
    Exactly this. I run Bedrock even though we have hardware and licenses for everyone in the house - because I can use my iPad Pro with a controller, and my kids can do the same, and they play in the car all the time.
jasonmp85 21d ago
You're defending a video game written in Java.
- behringer 21d ago
  It's almost like it should run on an iPad out of the box.
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- frollogaston 20d ago
  Minecraft RAM Edition
cevn 21d ago
Maybe bc it completely sidesteps the question? I have a nephew who is 7yrs old who only has an iPad and i can play with him due to geysermc, which is the correct answer.
- dannyw 20d ago
  Yep. It's like someone asking "How can we make cycling in [city] safer?" and answering it with "Drive a car."
- frollogaston 20d ago
  What's wrong with using https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/download/server/bedrock https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/download/server/bedrock ? I get that consoles require subscriptions for any kind of online connectivity, but didn't think the iPad had that limitation.
  - cevn 20d ago
    You might be right, i set this up quite some time ago. I don’t think I saw bedrock dedicated servers before.
Dylan16807 21d ago
It has roughly the same features, much worse moddability, and better performance. At some point it was a weaker clone, but it developed into a very high quality clone, and has graduated into being a co-production with the Java version. Get a refund from wherever you got your facts. I'll give you half a point for "iPad kids" since that term implies a lot of incorrect things but it does run on iPads.
petterroea 21d ago
When bedrock was announced I was sure Microsoft had won the os arms race and had everything they needed to make an impenetrable monopoly: * They could make bedrock moddable using .net, and make it so basically every kid interested in programming learned .net * They could then drop the Java version and get more control over the game with it being harder to mod in un-sanctioned ways while still enabling the content most people want from mods * And gain a powerful platform they can use to treat Windows/Xbox players better. * With everyone writing .net it makes more sense to use Windows to develop, effectively reducing the number of fresh developers with posix experience. Stopping the mass exodus to posix since the 2010s MacBook air sublime text nodejs days. But alas. Microsoft are incompetent. Minecraft was THE tool to turn the future in their favour and they completely overlooked it. Bedrock exists to make more money. They don't like the Java free modding. They want a marketplace. They want to make money off all content in the game. They want to sell DLC. Make no mistake, they aren't platforming modders to make money because they are charitable. It is because they want to profit, and they can profit at scale by outsourcing the work. That is in my opinion why most people are against bedrock, including myself. Bedrock is capitalist Minecraft. Enshittified Minecraft, with much more enshittification potential not yet realized. Java version is the only thing protecting bedrock from not being milked further, because it is competition. They know most people prefer Java. Content creators mostly use Java. But it sells bedrock, and bedrock makes money. And if they can get enough people over, they can kill Java and finally milk bedrock
- frollogaston 20d ago
  Java edition is also proprietary, and I don't see what stops them from milking it. They did DCMA-takedown Bukkit and lock a ton of paid accounts out of the game, but nothing further. Like they could drop Mac/Linux support, and I'm surprised/relieved they didn't. Despite it being mostly Java, it does rely on some natives, but even if it didn't...
  - petterroea 20d ago
    Its proprietary, but trivially decompileable. Sure, maybe if the game was released today they would try obfuscating better, but the thing is that modding culture had already basically torn the game apart by the time Microsoft came around. I don't think they had a choice but to accept the status quo. There are mods to disable unwanted Microsoft-pushed features like chat signing, for example. Microsoft doesn't want this, but it is so trivial to do with the Java edition they don't really have a choice but to either accept it or legal it. I am also surprised they didn't drop mac/linux support, but as long as maintaining it is free I don't think they will. They have lost a lot of market share to mac after all - that's a lot of customers to miss out on.
frollogaston 20d ago
Idk where it says this. Never played Bedrock though cause that doesn't work on Mac.

Why is this downvoted? Bedrock is literally dog shit clone for iPad kids. This is not even controversial, it's just fact.

by tucnak 21d ago

Why is this downvoted? Bedrock is literally dog shit clone for iPad kids. This is not even controversial, it's just fact.

idiotsecant 21d ago

Yaaaa get those 9 year olds good stupid plebs can't even buy their own computer, you really gottem

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frollogaston 20d ago
The irony is it's more like 35 year olds who don't care about modding realistic nuclear reactors into the game and just want to play with their kids
- Ancapistani 15d ago
  Exactly this. I run Bedrock even though we have hardware and licenses for everyone in the house - because I can use my iPad Pro with a controller, and my kids can do the same, and they play in the car all the time.

jasonmp85 21d ago

You're defending a video game written in Java.

behringer 21d ago
It's almost like it should run on an iPad out of the box.
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frollogaston 20d ago
Minecraft RAM Edition

cevn 21d ago

Maybe bc it completely sidesteps the question? I have a nephew who is 7yrs old who only has an iPad and i can play with him due to geysermc, which is the correct answer.

dannyw 20d ago
Yep. It's like someone asking "How can we make cycling in [city] safer?" and answering it with "Drive a car."
frollogaston 20d ago
What's wrong with using https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/download/server/bedrock https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/download/server/bedrock ? I get that consoles require subscriptions for any kind of online connectivity, but didn't think the iPad had that limitation.
- cevn 20d ago
  You might be right, i set this up quite some time ago. I don’t think I saw bedrock dedicated servers before.

Dylan16807 21d ago

It has roughly the same features, much worse moddability, and better performance. At some point it was a weaker clone, but it developed into a very high quality clone, and has graduated into being a co-production with the Java version. Get a refund from wherever you got your facts. I'll give you half a point for "iPad kids" since that term implies a lot of incorrect things but it does run on iPads.

petterroea 21d ago

When bedrock was announced I was sure Microsoft had won the os arms race and had everything they needed to make an impenetrable monopoly: * They could make bedrock moddable using .net, and make it so basically every kid interested in programming learned .net * They could then drop the Java version and get more control over the game with it being harder to mod in un-sanctioned ways while still enabling the content most people want from mods * And gain a powerful platform they can use to treat Windows/Xbox players better. * With everyone writing .net it makes more sense to use Windows to develop, effectively reducing the number of fresh developers with posix experience. Stopping the mass exodus to posix since the 2010s MacBook air sublime text nodejs days. But alas. Microsoft are incompetent. Minecraft was THE tool to turn the future in their favour and they completely overlooked it. Bedrock exists to make more money. They don't like the Java free modding. They want a marketplace. They want to make money off all content in the game. They want to sell DLC. Make no mistake, they aren't platforming modders to make money because they are charitable. It is because they want to profit, and they can profit at scale by outsourcing the work. That is in my opinion why most people are against bedrock, including myself. Bedrock is capitalist Minecraft. Enshittified Minecraft, with much more enshittification potential not yet realized. Java version is the only thing protecting bedrock from not being milked further, because it is competition. They know most people prefer Java. Content creators mostly use Java. But it sells bedrock, and bedrock makes money. And if they can get enough people over, they can kill Java and finally milk bedrock

frollogaston 20d ago
Java edition is also proprietary, and I don't see what stops them from milking it. They did DCMA-takedown Bukkit and lock a ton of paid accounts out of the game, but nothing further. Like they could drop Mac/Linux support, and I'm surprised/relieved they didn't. Despite it being mostly Java, it does rely on some natives, but even if it didn't...
- petterroea 20d ago
  Its proprietary, but trivially decompileable. Sure, maybe if the game was released today they would try obfuscating better, but the thing is that modding culture had already basically torn the game apart by the time Microsoft came around. I don't think they had a choice but to accept the status quo. There are mods to disable unwanted Microsoft-pushed features like chat signing, for example. Microsoft doesn't want this, but it is so trivial to do with the Java edition they don't really have a choice but to either accept it or legal it. I am also surprised they didn't drop mac/linux support, but as long as maintaining it is free I don't think they will. They have lost a lot of market share to mac after all - that's a lot of customers to miss out on.

frollogaston 20d ago

Idk where it says this. Never played Bedrock though cause that doesn't work on Mac.