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I think 'least regard' belongs to Oracle. For some reason I thought DuckDB was one of Gabe's ideas over at DuckDuckGo :-). That said, the acquisition by Amazon

I think 'least regard' belongs to Oracle. For some reason I thought DuckDB was one of Gabe's ideas over at DuckDuckGo :-). That said, the acquisition by Amazon is interesting in that it seems to overlap with their existing DB offerings? Which makes me wonder what exactly it is that they are getting out of this.

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Henchman21 23d ago
Potential competitor removed from play
- xyzelement 23d ago
  Duckdb is already an aws offering
  - re-thc 22d ago
    And it could have expanded elsewhere?
jhh 23d ago
they did fairly well with Java
- Grombobulous 23d ago
  I could definitely imagine Java in better hands. I can't think of many other languages/frameworks where one of the worst places to install it is from the primary sponsor/maintainer.
- dofm 23d ago
  Java could be in better hands. Maybe will be, one day, when Oracle finally ends up fighting the organisational fire that has started in their debt pile.
  - hitekker 23d ago
    That's odd; I've only heard good things about the Java team at Oracle. Is there a public article or insider knowledge that differs?
    - dofm 23d ago
      I mean this more generally, beyond that team. Oracle have used their ownership of Java as a thumping great cudgel before, and my own feeling is that the Google lawsuit basically ended Java’s appeal as a language on which others would risk any kind of innovation. A more nuanced approach might have preserved its relevance.
      - Gh0stRAT 22d ago
        A few years ago, I was itching to either brush up on Java (which I hadn't used since around v1.8) or learn a new one. (eg Golang, Rust, etc) In light of Oracle owning Java, I suspected it would face a long, slow decline and would eventually fade into Perl-like obscurity and decided to spend my time elsewhere. Also, I didn't want their nagging runtime updater on my system anymore. Haven't regretted that decision at all and it seems to be playing out about how I expected. (Except LLMs make rewrites into other languages more tractable so the slow decline of Java may accelerate)
hitekker 23d ago
I thought MySQL wasn't led badly? Compared to its forks
opem 22d ago
It would have been a perfect story/stack if they'd have rather joined duckduckgo ;)

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Henchman21 23d ago

Potential competitor removed from play

xyzelement 23d ago
Duckdb is already an aws offering
- re-thc 22d ago
  And it could have expanded elsewhere?

jhh 23d ago

they did fairly well with Java

Grombobulous 23d ago
I could definitely imagine Java in better hands. I can't think of many other languages/frameworks where one of the worst places to install it is from the primary sponsor/maintainer.
dofm 23d ago
Java could be in better hands. Maybe will be, one day, when Oracle finally ends up fighting the organisational fire that has started in their debt pile.
- hitekker 23d ago
  That's odd; I've only heard good things about the Java team at Oracle. Is there a public article or insider knowledge that differs?
  - dofm 23d ago
    I mean this more generally, beyond that team. Oracle have used their ownership of Java as a thumping great cudgel before, and my own feeling is that the Google lawsuit basically ended Java’s appeal as a language on which others would risk any kind of innovation. A more nuanced approach might have preserved its relevance.
    - Gh0stRAT 22d ago
      A few years ago, I was itching to either brush up on Java (which I hadn't used since around v1.8) or learn a new one. (eg Golang, Rust, etc) In light of Oracle owning Java, I suspected it would face a long, slow decline and would eventually fade into Perl-like obscurity and decided to spend my time elsewhere. Also, I didn't want their nagging runtime updater on my system anymore. Haven't regretted that decision at all and it seems to be playing out about how I expected. (Except LLMs make rewrites into other languages more tractable so the slow decline of Java may accelerate)

hitekker 23d ago

I thought MySQL wasn't led badly? Compared to its forks

opem 22d ago

It would have been a perfect story/stack if they'd have rather joined duckduckgo ;)